"They were tested." Total rubbish.
Hey, do they have a demonstration now on cart witnessing? Do they drag the cart up on the platform and show two JW's just sitting/standing there ignoring the world passing them by? That would be grand.
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Presentations
by punkofnice ini remember when we used to demonstrate the suggested presentation of the propaganda from the 'kingdom ministry(r)'.. a pompus old sod of a brother(tm) once said that the presentations had been tested to ensure they worked.. i thought this was rubbish, myself........ .........any thoughts or insights, my friends?.
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Regional Conventions
by life is to short inwondering if anyone knows when they will announce the regional conventions.
every year they always announced it the first service meeting of january.
i tied in last night by phone as my husband insists on going i do not and never will again but i like to book a room now and i refuse to use their list.
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OnTheWayOut
They are probably not posting 2016 until they are sure that everyone has heard their congregation announcement. I couldn't imagine why your husband's congregation didn't announce their time unless they were still unsure about arrangements for that area- that does happen sometimes.
Your people in that neck of the JW world seem so over-the-top on so much. Who gives a rat's ass if it's an assembly, convention, regional, district, or a Snoozefest?
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If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?
by nicolaou ina few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.
i was surprised to say the least!.
i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.
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OnTheWayOut
Nic, while you and I might see it differently, people are allowed to refuse lifesaving treatments with a rational mind. I know (and sort of agree) that JW minds are not working rationally when their refusal is based on blind obedience. But many healthy humans have DNR orders (DO NOT RESUSITATE) for their own beliefs/philosophies about such. And I could honor that, kind of actually have to.
And while your mushroom/blood question is not really appropriate because it's a case of introducing the bullet compared to introducing the kevlar, there are many different answers even to that. If a sickly person wants mushrooms to die peacefully, it's a decision I could abide by. If an over-90 JW wants to just die faithfully, what kind of psychological trauma would giving blood cause to them?
It's a terrible situation. I have actually been on the scene where the sick person needs "heroic measures" and those measures will probably revive them, but there is the DNR plain as day, and there is the family member saying "Ignore it" on one side and the primary care giving family member on the other side saying "Let him go."
Heck, even my sister (who just died a few weeks ago) had a DNR and her ex-husband would have ignored it had paramedics been called a little sooner. And she would have hated him for doing that.
I get that there are many points of view on this one, and it's a tough call. But tough calls can be made different ways by different people.
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If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?
by nicolaou ina few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.
i was surprised to say the least!.
i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.
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OnTheWayOut
Some of you guys are really something else. One thing I learned exiting the cult was not to judge other people. I am still unsure what I will do when my wife needs life-saving blood and her JW mother is standing there. I will probably allow the blood and let them be mad at me, but secretly grateful.
But if someone else decides something else, I am not going to judge them for their decision.
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We are not a cult!
by Londo111 ini thought the writer here did a good job comparing the faqs of several high control groups.
hopefully this will be useful to someone out there.. http://thoughtsonthingsandstuff.com/we-are-not-a-cult/.
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Some think of a cult as being a new or unorthodox religion. Jehovah’s Witnesses have not invented a new religion. On the contrary, we pattern our worship after that of the first-century Christians, whose example and teachings were recorded in the Bible. YADDA YADDA!!
I love how any cult group tries to find the common misconceptions about cults and say "That doesn't apply to us." Sorry, I already learned that a cult doesn't need to hit all the markers of a cult, and being "new" really isn't one of them anyway.
Some think of a cult as being a dangerous religious sect with a human leader. Jehovah’s Witnesses do not look to any human as their leader. Rather, we adhere to the standard that Jesus set for his followers when he stated: “Your Leader is one, the Christ.”—Matthew 23:10.
Bullshit. They obey these guys, but claim they are not the leaders, just those taking the lead. They claim they are not inspired, but just spirit-directed. They cannot walk the line like that. Total bullshit.
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Is there new light about joining the Military?
by ShirleyW ini'm sure there's probably not, but on jwmatch, which i subscribe to for laughs, i got their usual email today saying they found the perfect match for me, he's in hawaii, i'm in nyc, he's 40 and i"m 18 years older, perfect so far, right?
anyway below is the first line of his narrative introducing himself.
i am disfellowshipped and likely won't be reinstated until i retire from the military in three years.
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OnTheWayOut
Hey, it sounds like the best on all accounts for this guy. He can "retire" from the military with a pension and go get a JW-approved job. He can eventually get reinstated. He can have a hot 18-year-old.
I would figure he wants to meet his young match before attempting to get reinstated, then he can have a normal dating/engagement period- meaning he can have premarital sex. What a good plan for someone who doesn't want to ever figure out that Watchtower is a lie.
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As Brooklyn Park Stalls, Fingers Point at Watchtower Corporation
by AMNESIANO inhttp://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/01/nyregion/stalled-brooklyn-park-exposes-rift-with-religious-group.html?_r=1&referer=http://m.facebook.com.
amnesian.
captive 7/1972 - 2/2001.
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Watchtower is a criminal organization, so this doesn't surprise me. Slick maneuvering for a zoning change, they could at least have done something with the park.
The article says how the area was part of enriching Watchtower which returned nothing back to the area. Good riddance, their neighbors are yelling.
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Ex JW's - Which Christian denomination are you with now and why?
by Truthexplorer inthis is a question for ex jw's who have joined another christian faith group.
the purpose of my question iis to find out which christian faith group you chose after leaving watchtower and what convinced you to travel this new spiritual path you are on.
i am interested to know because i personally would like to find a genuine faith group where i can feel true christian liberty as i initially thought i had with the witnesses.
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dubstepped: What I am about is helping people find what they want, what makes them happy. I'm not about trying to make every conversation a battle to prove someone wrong.
But notice this from the opening post:
I personally would like to find a genuine faith group where I can feel true Christian liberty as I initially thought I had with the witnesses.
Our comments are not simply Christian bashing. And our goals shouldn't be to make them happy. The poster wants to know "the truth" and we are helping with our thoughts from our own spiritual journeys. If you simply want to make Truthexplorer happy, then you should appreciate all this wonderful advice.
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Another heavy load :Literature Cart Witnessing
by RULES & REGULATIONS injehovah's witnesses standing on a street corner publicly promoting the propaganda of the governing body!another ridiculous form of "forced loyalty" to jehovah.
"dirty work" that the wtbts make witnesses go through.preaching work '' lite''.putting more heavy loads on members while the ''faithful and discreet slave'' preach from warm studios without the humiliation.
what an embarrassment!.
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Are you kidding? A chair, a shady spot in the sunshine. Easy time. In many places, they have set up tables indoors. The problem is not the way they get their time, it's that they think they need to get "time" at all.
I wish the load was as heavy as it could be so that JW's hate hate hate doing it. Less door-to-door and much less actually approaching people lets these people just enjoy a day out in the sun. Now if we could make them drag the phonograph around like the "colporters" did, that would be a real burden.
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Ex JW's - Which Christian denomination are you with now and why?
by Truthexplorer inthis is a question for ex jw's who have joined another christian faith group.
the purpose of my question iis to find out which christian faith group you chose after leaving watchtower and what convinced you to travel this new spiritual path you are on.
i am interested to know because i personally would like to find a genuine faith group where i can feel true christian liberty as i initially thought i had with the witnesses.
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