Old doctrine (loosely) based on scriptures is the biggest hindrance Watchtower has to overcome when the calendar says they are wrong. They will invent any bullshit to do this. Reading over some of Freddy Franz' stuff, there is no real basis for 1975 and for the length of earth years given to a "creative day." He just invented bullshit that was more dazzling than the bullshit the current bunch came up with.
OnTheWayOut
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the new understanding
by heathen inhi guys , i know i was never a favorite here and haven't posted in awhile ... question .
what do you think of the new understanding of , " this generation " they seem to go in circles on this one big time , once 1914 generation was almost gone they said they didn't know what it meant and now in the new publication the generation includes the second generation after 1914 .... i agree they don't know what they are talking about and this is just another control move .
any comments ?.
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According to one JW there can only be 1 of 3 reasons why you left.
by Bonsai ini asked an old jw friend of mine why so many baptized individuals leave the jw religion.
"did it ever occur to you, old friend, that maybe they know something that you don't know and have valid reasons for leaving?
", i asked.. his response set me back for an answer.
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OnTheWayOut
" The vast majority of those who leave the truth do it for one of three reasons:
1). They want to go out and fornicate, or are already fornicating, get caught and leave.
2). They have homosexual desires and finally go out and decide to act on those desires.
3). They've been stumbled and their pride pushes them out."Don't forget the 4th one.
4] They are too lazy to do the door-to-door work.
They rumored that it was #3 for me. I suppose learning the truth about the truth can stumble one out, but pride wasn't part of it for me. -
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My JW mother asks me to be 2nd on her "Medical Directive" card
by OnTheWayOut inmy mother's parents, my grandparents were not jw.
my jw mother had medical power of attorney and her husband (never jw) was secondary on that.
when grandma needed blood, mom let her husband sign off.
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OnTheWayOut
I had not abandoned this thread. I have read all responses. When I have some time, I will start responding. Thanks.
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Adult survivor of sexual abuse as a child
by life is to short ini showed the video from the midweek meeting of september 12th to my counselor to get her take on it.
she said that it clearly was a propaganda video and was appalled that it was shown to an audience that had small children in it.
she said that they could have been way more generic in their way of portraying the women as having been abused.. the subject of sexual abuse and the way the video zeroed in on it would have small children asking questions that really did not need to be addressed.
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OnTheWayOut
Thanks for your report. The black pot is complaining that the kettle is black. And they will continue to run, hide, appeal cases.
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Is remaining ignorant a choice?
by stuckinarut2 inis remaining ignorant about the society a choice?.
surely every witness has a moment in time when "something just doesn't seem right"?
perhaps a teaching, doctrine, an article, a talk, a news report about child abuse handling, or a jwdubdotorg broadcast, a video, a cartoon for the kids....you know....?.
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OnTheWayOut
I realized that, no maater what, I would have woke up with a WTF moment. If I had not left already, "overlapping generation" certainly would have caused me to get up during the study of it, walk away, and laugh on the way out.
If I am confronted by JW's, I may still just keep saying "overlapping generation" in a laughing tone.
But not all the ones who are heavily invested will wake up no matter the crap they sell. Younger ones are using google and modern common knowledge from the internet to get away, so it will continue to shrink.
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My JW mother asks me to be 2nd on her "Medical Directive" card
by OnTheWayOut inmy mother's parents, my grandparents were not jw.
my jw mother had medical power of attorney and her husband (never jw) was secondary on that.
when grandma needed blood, mom let her husband sign off.
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My mother's parents, my grandparents were not JW. My JW mother had medical power of attorney and her husband (never JW) was secondary on that. When Grandma needed blood, Mom let her husband sign off. Going back in ancient family history, when my brother was sick with Leukemia in the early 1970's, my JW mother stayed silent about his medical treatment and let my father (never JW) sign off on blood.
So she's always found the loophole to let people get what they need.It's happened before and it's happening again- apparently, it's time to sign a new medical directive. So she asks me to be second after her (never JW) husband for medical power of attorney (or whatever the specific term is). I agreed. My mother is in generally good health. I can foresee her husband caving in to giving blood to her. If I can see it, I imagine my mother can see it. Then if he's not able, I might honor her wishes. But I might cave in also, depending on the situation.
She said she doesn't want the elders making decisions. My JW wife did ask me a few years ago to sign her card and honor her wishes. Maybe she will also ask me again. I know we argue here whether we should honor their wishes or not and I am not wanting this to turn into such an argument. I mean it when I say I will honor their wishes, but I just may change my mind if I think it will make a difference.
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Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?
by Formerbrother inis there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?
if they are not jws then who are they?.
who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.
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Jehovahs Witnesses don't know what the Kingdom of God even is.
by biblexaminer inafter a century of learning and teaching, the dubs are no closer to understanding what jesus taught.. god's kingdom rules ch.
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OnTheWayOut
The Bible contains enough different writings for different belief systems to have their own contradictory thoughts.
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JW Literature Trolleys Don't Carry the Book Of Mormon
by Athanasius inthis morning the jws set up two literature trolleys at our local shopping centre.
the trolleys were situated within 20 feet of each other with six jws attending them.
why they needed six jws on hand i have no idea as everyone was ignoring them.. anyway i thought i'd have some fun.
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OnTheWayOut
I agree with D.O.C. . Further, I hope you took the gray Bible and asked for the larger one. Then I would have thrown it away, and the larger one later, too.
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After Being Out for 17 Years He is Back In again!!!
by new boy ini called a guy i haven talked with for over two years yesterday.
i met him at bethel back in the 1970's.
david b was known as the g job king back then.
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OnTheWayOut
Let's all make a pact to never go back and support each other by trying to slap some sense back into anyone considering it and agreeing to at least listen if we are the one thinking of going back.