Posts by OnTheWayOut

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Lunch today with.. JW step father....

by raven in

it has been a while since i've posted, i think its because i have finally gotten some peace and quiet as far as harassment from the jw elders.. my step father, the one who reported me to the elder police for a sinful act invited me to lunch today.. it has been almost a year since the incident, we have talked here and there, it has been just casual though.

he says he is in town for work and asked if i would like to meet up for lunch, i couldn't think of any excuses so i agreed.. i hope it goes well, hope that we don't go into the jw nonsense.

hope he doesn't bring elders with him, am i paranoid or what?

OnTheWayOut

Thanks for sharing your story. So glad it wasn't a bad experience.

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1st christmas ever

by notalone in

jw
friends

so, i am around 50,4th gen born in- christmas.

strange thing this christmas thing.

i've been watching people this year, really watching them.

OnTheWayOut

Happy holidays to you, to whatever degree you celebrate.

Congrats on your first Christmas.

67

What is life?

by punkofnice in

when i was a jobo, i used to thing of 'life without end at laaaasssssst'.. having been on my journey out of the wbt$ slaveholdery, i have found that something that makes sense is that life doesn't owe us a meaning.

psalms 146:4 was actually bangeth on the money-eth 'his breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.'.

although i am now very atheist, and really do not even think there is the remotest possibility of a god, that bible passage is correct.

OnTheWayOut

Life is just a big accident, and your daughter is right- "just little things that bring joy each day should be good enough."

Life has no purpose, so feel free to superimpose a purpose of your own.

George Harrison decided that life has meaning with "you by my side."

What I feel, I can't say
But my love is there for you anytime of day
But if it's not love that you need
Then I'll try my best to make everything succeed

Tell me, what is my life without your love
Tell me, who am I without you, by my side

What I know, I can do
If I give my love now to everyone like you
But if it's not love that you need
Then I'll try my best to make everything succeed

Tell me, what is my life without your love
Tell me, who am I without you, by my side
Tell me, what is my life without your love
Tell me, who am I without you, by my side

What I feel, I can't say
But my love is there for you any time of day
But if it's not love that you need
Then I'll try my best to make everything succeed

Tell me, what is my life without your love
Tell me, who am I without you, by my side
Oh tell me, what is my life without your love
Tell me, who am I without you, by my side

What is my life without your love
Tell me, who am I without you, by my side

Oh tell me, what is my life without your love
Tell me who am I without you by my side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XFfUt7HQWM

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WBATS = THE WIZARD OF OZ

by UNCONDITIONAL LOVE in

jw
friends

i found this amusing and ironic, but in a nutshell.

stay on the yellow brick road, do as we say and want, and we promise you courage, a heart, a brain and a ticket back home (spirtual paradise now/ physical paradise soon/ resurrection guaranteed )... .

don't ask too many questions or look behind the big curtain, just believe us or you'll fall apart and die... (research or study on your own/internet/ researching the governing body leads to weakness and disfellowshipping).

OnTheWayOut

And just as in that story, the characters received nothing from "The Great Oz" that they didn't provide to themselves.

To nail the comparison, it is very important to have a "Toto" if you find yourself in the the Land of Watchtower.
Toto may have gotten Dorothy into trouble, but Toto also revealed the truth of the Great Oz, pulling the curtain back. Your "Toto" can be personal research or a loving family member or perhaps getting disfellowshipped or seeing the horrible treatment that Watchtower dishes out to another person.

It's too bad that so many ~~munchkins~~ Jehovah's Witnesses would scold Toto for pulling the curtain back, perhaps even deciding to shun him from that point on for what he did.

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Looking for a bit of advice in a difficult situation

by Oversteer in

jw
friends

i'm looking for a bit of guidance here and not really sure where to turn.

maybe someone has been in a similar situation and can help me out.. currently i'm an awake, baptized jw.

have been for a few years.

OnTheWayOut

Any updates?

3

Indoctrination or Education? Grooming Minds

by Tech49 in

jw
friends

dear friends,.

i came across this video a while back.

after thinking about it for some time, i wanted to share.

OnTheWayOut

I always like theramintrees vids.

17

The Book of Mormon

by dubstepped in

jw
friends

my wife and i went to see it today at the encouragement of some of our new friends.

we laughed until we cried, and it was so cathartic to sit in a room full of hundreds of people laughing at the ridiculousness of religion.

sure, the subject is mormonism, but it was very poignant and applicable to all religion.

OnTheWayOut

Yeah, Blondie and I went together (with her husband and and 12 others).

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Have any ex-jws considered joining the Bible Students?

by Rainbow_Troll in

their fundamental beliefs are much like jehovah's witnesses sans the paranoia, authoritarianism, stifling rules, and end-times enthusiasm.

you don't even have to become a bible student to be saved, you could be an idol worshipping heathen and still get resurrected in the milenium.

if i still believed in the divine inspiration of the scriptures, i would be a bible student.

OnTheWayOut

Lucky for me, along with research to reveal that JW's were a cult, I also researched the roots of JW's which would include the crap that Russell developed from his Millerite beginnings and would include the Bible itself.

So I won't be led astray by any religious crap anymore.

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The Book of Mormon

by dubstepped in

jw
friends

my wife and i went to see it today at the encouragement of some of our new friends.

we laughed until we cried, and it was so cathartic to sit in a room full of hundreds of people laughing at the ridiculousness of religion.

sure, the subject is mormonism, but it was very poignant and applicable to all religion.

OnTheWayOut

I bought group tickets about 2 years ago and went with 14 other ex-JW's.

As long as you can laugh at "religion" it's funny. To our group, it was hilarious.

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If You Could Ask the GB Or One Of Its Members...

by Cold Steel in

...one question about anything and get a straight answer, what would it be?

historical, philosophical, theological, eschatological, anything.

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OnTheWayOut

To me, saying "and get a straight answer" puts your question in the realm of that riddle where you have to choose the safe door from 2 doors where one is guarded by a liar and one is guarded by a truthful guard.
There is an answer for that riddle, but it's not realistic. Where and when would that actually really happen? Same question with getting a straight answer from a GB member. Where and when would that actually really happen?

So in the realm of philosophical riddles, my question would be, "Do you really believe God works through you and the 2/3rds vote and actually accepts the doctrines of you men like the overlap generation to be representative of what HE meant?"