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  Accepting the reason why the Watchtower Corporation and its top leaders are endeavored to brainwash people

  by Rocketman123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  taking a close look at the operation of the jws religion you can observe technics of brainwashing orchestrated through the literature the wts publishes for its members such as the watchtower .. everything these men have done had calculating agendas, which were to firstly attract attention to the literature they published, to cultivate power toward themselves, to intentionally take control over people's lives and of course draw in money.. brainwashing (also known as mind control, menticide, coercive persuasion, thought control, thought reform, and re-education) is the concept that the human mind can be altered or controlled by certain psychological techniques.

  brainwashing is said to reduce its subjects' ability to think critically or independently,[1] to allow the introduction of new, unwanted thoughts and ideas into their minds,[2] as well as to change their attitudes, values and beliefs.

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  "Brainwash" is one of those words that instantly shuts people down.
  If I tell a JW about brainwashing, they just know that they are able to think some for themselves and the idea is crazy to them.
  
  Even here among people who are no longer in the religion, you will get arguments about the term.
  
  Watchtower is a dangerous mind-control cult. But that's just as bad to say.

  Given the chance, I would start with "high control" group. And then I would use Steve Hassan's BITE method without identifying where it comes from.
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  When was your last Kingdom Hall meeting?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i stopped going to kingdom hall meetings about nine years ago.

  i was fading for the longest time, refused to go out in field service, dropped out of the ministry school talks, no longer answered at the watchtower study, arrived at the meetings the last second, and left as soon as possible.

  i couldn't take attending the meetings any longer.

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  I went to my nephew's Kingdom Hall wedding about 3 years ago. I went to my father-in-law's "memorial" a few years before that. But I quit going to any regular meetings at the 2007 Memorial and I went to the 2008 Memorial one year later, and that is really the end of it.
  
  I may attend a few more Kingdom Hall "funerals" or "memorials" to a family member, but it will depend on circumstances.
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  Should I continue to help an "unbelieving" husband?

  by RiverPeace in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know there are a lot of 'wise heads' out there on this forum - so i would appreciate your suggestions.. several years ago, i studied with a guy, whose wife is a jw.

  (he had studied with several elders before i came along).

  the study went reasonably well.

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  rather forcefully, told me not to send anymore anti-JW stuff.

  
  I would stay away from it. He knows you left it. If he wants to know more, he will ask.
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  Are Jehovah’s Witnesses Wrong Regarding Staying Out of Politics?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we were told we were part of the world if we got involved in politics.

  if we had employment that had political involvement we were instructed to get another job.

  we were told we might be considered disassociated if we voted and then it became questionable.

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  I am tempted to say that anything the Witnesses claim must be wrong. I am ready to say that if the reason for staying out of politics is to serve the Watchtower instead, then of course it is wrong. If you are asking whether a Christian should stay away from politics and if the Bible really says that, I would say that it is uniquely a Watchtower doctrine that most of the rest of Christianity hasn't concluded.
  
  But if you are really asking if the idea is right or wrong in general- If an individual decides to stay out of politics and not take sides on issues, that is their decision. I see that as a valid decision. But to insist that others do that is wrong.
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  Rush Limbaugh Is Dead

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the conservative icon rush limbaugh passed away today.

  he had lung cancer and finally succumbed to the disease.

  what is sad and disgusting is how some people are happy and thrilled that he is gone.

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  Progressives don't idolize people like people do in the Trump Cult.
  Cuomo has said many of the right things, making him socially progressive. But when it comes to economics, he hasn't acted very progressive.
  
  I know that is confusing to Trump worshippers. They know that he is lying to their face and always saying the right things that people want to hear and always doing what works best for him, his family, his contributors, and not doing whatever he said. They are confused by opposition criticism of Cuomo because Trump worshippers keep worshipping no matter what Trump says or does next.
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  How to tell my parents that i dont want to be a jw?Please help, im begging...

  by ihatemylife in

  1. social
  2. family

  fist of all my first language is not english so i apologise for any mistakes.i am 17 my whole family is jw.i am so sick of this i cry all the time i wasted my teen years doing nothing, no friends, no parties, no going out, no fun.i am scared for my life because if i tell them they will kick me out, i have no money to move out.i am curentlly studying the bible with my mom just because i am scared to tell her that i dont want to.please help me with some advice im begging.my life depends on this......

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  It sounds like you are not baptized. DO NOT GET BAPTIZED. No matter what, don't do it.

  Others may have good advice about what to say to your mom, but DO NOT GET BAPTIZED.
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  Prince Harry and Meghan

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  what do you think of these two?.

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  What do you think of these two?
  
  I give them as much thought as Kim and Kanye. If possible, maybe less.
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  Do You Support Trump Being Impeached Again?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it looks like it can happen again and i suspect if it does happen, the senate will not convict either because they can’t convict him since it’s after his presidency or simply because they don’t have sufficient votes..

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  Trump did incite an insurrection against the US government. But if you want to believe that he did not there is no way to convince you.
  
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  Rush Limbaugh Is Dead

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the conservative icon rush limbaugh passed away today.

  he had lung cancer and finally succumbed to the disease.

  what is sad and disgusting is how some people are happy and thrilled that he is gone.

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  ....not simply. You over-simplify.
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  Rush Limbaugh Is Dead

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the conservative icon rush limbaugh passed away today.

  he had lung cancer and finally succumbed to the disease.

  what is sad and disgusting is how some people are happy and thrilled that he is gone.

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  I did not say that Rush created the parody. I said "When Barack Obama was still a Senator, Rush enjoyed playing a song parody ‘Barack the Magic Negro’ on his show, so maybe we could play that at his funeral to remind people what Rush was all about."
  
  We can turn Rush's life story into a parody joke which it is.