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  Issuing a Challenge to Atheists and Unbelievers

  by The wanderer in

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  personal and more than likely good reasons.

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  And if the paranormal refuses to perform on demand, say for James Randi or anyone similar, why does it seem to prefer to perform for the "not very tightly wrapped," as jaguarbass mentioned? Randi might be a clown, but he sure makes more sense than any of his counterparts! One of my favorite writers, Colin Wilson, made quite a study of this idea, and found only one case worthy of following up on.

  Thats a whole heap of garbage.

  First up - the guy I mentioned and his girlfriend are down to earth individuals and this guy in question who has had really odd encounters with what I would determine 'the supernatural' , is an atheist and a sceptic. He also manages to hold down a full time job and I have a hard time convincing him of anything beyond his 5 senses. Where this "not tightly wrapped" crap comes from is the product of a 'tightly closed off' imagination and the desire not to take a leap of faith.

  As for Colin Wilson - thats not what I've read. I have two of his books where he has investigated many cases; concluding that indeed "there is something going on" beyond the 5 sense reality.
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  Issuing a Challenge to Atheists and Unbelievers

  by The wanderer in

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  Beardo

  As far as the paranormal "evidence" that you mention, James Randi has a $1 million offer to anyone who can reproduce these in a controlled environment. The offer has been around for years. NO ONE has even come close to winning it.

  @ Seeker4

  Sorry, but the supernatural world does not operate to entertain clowns like Randi. I know several people who have had bizarre and whacked-out encounters with what would appear to be otherworldly intelligences and whatever these things are, they will not perform upon command.

  One guy's camera would mysteriously stop working when a ghostly figure repeatedly appeared in his living room for instance and I know this guy has had some quite unusual encounters in his time and his girlfriend will happily back up all of his accounts.
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  "That I may make a reply to him that is taunting me"

  by under_believer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so for our "congregation book study", we are still deeply mired in the bible teach book.

  this week's lesson talks about the whole idea that the book of job relates the central issue of the entire cosmos, a vital issue raised by satan, where satan questions whether humans follow god because of what they are given, or because he deserves it.

  i'm surprised that the book of job, obviously archetypal and figurative (for example, i doubt people back then literally spoke for hours in hebrew verse, and i doubt that four messengers showed up all in a row with stories telling that they, only they, got away to tell of a disaster) even has a place in the canon; aside from its lack of any specific historical position or accuracy, the argument it advances (especially as the society interprets it) is facile: the idea that privileged, wealthy, powerful job somehow stands as a representative for all humanity and serves as a litmus test for man's interaction with god is downright silly.

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  All scriptures are from Jehovah to us, agreed?

  Nope. Disagree.
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  Is the Muslim religion actively looking for a war or fight?

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  muslims daily, in the arab world, call for the death to christians and the americans.

  even looking at some muslim websites, you will see jesus shown to be evil and the christian faith to be a terrible group of people.

  so with this, why does minor comments on them and cartoons about their founder make them so extreme?

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  Of course they should, but just look what happened to those nationals who opposed Stalin or Hitler or Saddam!

  ...and wait until the next wave of Neocon terrorism kicks in - those nice camps they have built will come in real handy.
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  Is the Muslim religion actively looking for a war or fight?

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  muslims daily, in the arab world, call for the death to christians and the americans.

  even looking at some muslim websites, you will see jesus shown to be evil and the christian faith to be a terrible group of people.

  so with this, why does minor comments on them and cartoons about their founder make them so extreme?

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  It isn't the masses that are at fault, it's the nutty leaderships!

  Very true, up to a point, but the masses help run the war machine and they should still take responsibility for their actions.

  A man can ask you to jump off a cliff, but you don't have to.
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  Is the Muslim religion actively looking for a war or fight?

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  muslims daily, in the arab world, call for the death to christians and the americans.

  even looking at some muslim websites, you will see jesus shown to be evil and the christian faith to be a terrible group of people.

  so with this, why does minor comments on them and cartoons about their founder make them so extreme?

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  Beardo

  Certainly in the past Christians had a similar ideology.

  The psuedo - Christian ( illuminati ) still have those goals.

  As do global Zionists, a branch of Zionism being radical Christians who believe in the outpouring of God's Kingdom through human agents. Not peace, but a literal sword. These are dangerous people.
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  Is the Muslim religion actively looking for a war or fight?

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  muslims daily, in the arab world, call for the death to christians and the americans.

  even looking at some muslim websites, you will see jesus shown to be evil and the christian faith to be a terrible group of people.

  so with this, why does minor comments on them and cartoons about their founder make them so extreme?

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  The Western spin doctors want us 'twitching in our beds at night' - concerning ourselves about Islamic nut jobs.

  Yes, there are factions within the Islamic world who want bloodshed, as there are in the pseudo Christian Western administrations - who kill the people, poison the land and turn the desert into glass in the name of 'democrasy' ...

  The Church of Rome has actively waged war against Islam since its inception and nothing has changed, aside from the stakes are now higher due to the proliferation of high tech weaponary (mostly developed and held by Western authorities).

  When the US/UK told us that Saddam had WMDs when Iraq was illegally occupied, that was clearly a big pile of shit. People like Dr David Kelly blew the whistle and he lost his life (killed by the secret services in the UK as a warning to others).

  There is not a huge Islamic terrorist network operating on US/UK soil - there are obviously going to be isolated pockets of resistance against Western powers though.

  If you think 9/11 was a strike by Islam against the West, then you know very little and have a lot to learn about how the secret service operates/what their agenda is at present and how social engineering works upon our minds daily through the media.
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  Who celebrates Halloween?

  by love2Bworldly in

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  i know a lot of christians, not just jws, don't feel comfortable celebrating halloween.

  for me, it's just an excuse to have fun.

  are there a lot of you out there who have fun on halloween?

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  JWs aren't wrong about absolutely everything - they are just control freaks with a wonky religion.

  It is a relief not to be associated with those silly 'so-called' celebrations and for the 15 years I have been away, I haven't felt the need to go back to either Christmas or Halloween (which is quite small in the UK anyway, but getting bigger every year as far as I can see).
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  Do you consider yourself a spiritual person?

  by hambeak in

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  2. friends

  since most of us on this board have left the org for one reason or another, do you still feel a sense of spirituality to the great spirit?.

  if so how?

  if not why?.

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  What does that actually mean?

  If spiritual means attempting to connect with the great one "out there" and the great one "in there" - then yes.
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  Has anyone read this article..

  by earthtone in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it broke my heart to read about someone having to paying court fee's after wining a sexual abuse case against the wtbts.

  she ended up winning 5,000 dollars but has to pay 220000 dollars in court feee to wtbts and for her lawyer.

  crazy!.

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  Beardo

  Yes, there may be an internal policy now allowing 'depressed ones' to seek outside help (and lets face it, a lot of the maniacs at the hall will only make matters worse!) - but when I was there in the early 90s I was told by a well respected sister that I was not wise to seek the counsel of somebody aligned with the world.

  But the light just keeps on getting brighter... or should that be "common sense is resurfacing in light of severe internal problems and possible law suits against the society" ?

  Afterall, how many broken down individuals crippled by delusional minds and inefficient emotional support can one organization take?