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Latest On Calgary Girl: 7/10/02

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Drue

and news brief here: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020712/ap_on_re_ca/canada_briefs_1

Thursday's Canada News Briefs
Thu Jul 11, 9:41 PM ET

By The Associated Press

CALGARY, Alberta - A dying teenager who fought blood transfusions on religious grounds was disheartened Thursday after losing her bid for Canada's top court to consider the medical rights of mature minors.

The Supreme Court of Canada didn't provide any reasons, as is usual in such proceedings, when it released its decision that it would not hear her case.

"She was disappointed," lawyer David Gnam said of his 16-year-old client.

The decision doesn't affect the Calgary girl's medical situation as the Alberta government last week stopped forcing treatments on the Jehovah's Witness after 38 transfusions and four rounds of chemotherapy failed to arrest her leukemia.

Although her medical condition has improved, she is not expected to live much longer.

Jehovah's Witnesses believe the Bible forbids using blood in any way.

The girl, whose identity is protected under the Alberta Child Welfare Act, had said her case was about the rights of mature teens to make their own informed medical choices.

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Latest On Calgary Girl: 7/10/02

by AngryXJW in

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Drue

Read here as well:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020711/ap_wo_en_po/canada_blood_transfusion_1

Supreme Court rejects case of forced blood transfusions for Jehovah's Witness teen-ager with leukemia

Thu Jul 11, 4:02 PM ET

CALGARY, Alberta - Canada's Supreme Court has refused to consider the case of a 16-year-old leukemia patient who was forced to undergo blood transfusions even though it violated her beliefs as a Jehovah's Witness.

Following its usual practice, the court offered no comment Thursday in rejecting the case.

"She was disappointed," lawyer David Gnam said of his client, who cannot be identified by name because she is a minor. "She wanted to know the reasons for that decision, but of course the Supreme Court doesn't give reasons, so it's a little frustrating."

The girl was forced to undergo 38 blood transfusions and four rounds of chemotherapy by the Alberta provincial government. Her treatment ended last week after cancerous lesions appeared on her back, showing the medicine had failed to arrest the leukemia.

According to Gnam, the girl considers the case to be about the rights of mature teen-agers to make their own informed medical choices.

"She said, `If they don't listen to my case, they are going to have to listen to another case in the future,' so she understands that the issue that she's raising continues to be a live concern," Gnam said.

The case divided the girl's family, with her father advocating the transfusions and medical treatment while her mother opposed them.

Jehovah's Witnesses believe the Bible forbids using blood for medical treatment.

The case had gone to court 19 times with lower court judges giving the Alberta government custody of the girl, who was then forced to undergo transfusions. Doctors said conventional blood treatments offered a 40 to 50 percent chance of beating the cancer.

Edited by - Drue on 12 July 2002 8:59:6

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News from Calgary

by larc in

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the trial to decide whether the father can continue to allow his ill jw daughter to have blood transfusions is in progress.

four people are testifying in the father's defense.

jim penton, sam muramoto, chris christonson, and greg stafford.

Drue

Thank you for the news larc and others. I posted about this on one of the Russian forums

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anyone in or around London, UK?

by Drue in

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i am a former jw from russia (disassociated due to conscience reasons a year ago).

i will be on business in london, uk late april-beginning of may and will have a week off after may 3. i would like to meet some witnesses/ex-witnesses while im in the uk, but i dont think i know anyone in the london area or around.

please drop me a line at [email protected] if you might like to meet.

Drue

Hello again,

I just received a last minute phone call from work saying I could not extend my stay in the UK after the work is over. So I have to be leaving London for home May 3 and would not likely get a chance to meet anyone, even in the London area, because I won’t have any days off.

Those who wrote me -- thank you very much for your hospitality, maybe next time. Somebody also seems to have posted my yesterday's message on some other board, because I heard from people who said they saw it posted elsewhere. While that person may have been moved by good intentions, and the results were the ones i sought, I still think people's messages should not be posted elsewhere without permission or at least notification.

anewperson: i'm sorry i'm short of time now -- my flight is in several hours. What exactly would you like me to tell you about?

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anyone in or around London, UK?

by Drue in

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friends

i am a former jw from russia (disassociated due to conscience reasons a year ago).

i will be on business in london, uk late april-beginning of may and will have a week off after may 3. i would like to meet some witnesses/ex-witnesses while im in the uk, but i dont think i know anyone in the london area or around.

please drop me a line at [email protected] if you might like to meet.

Drue

Hello,

I am a former JW from Russia (disassociated due to conscience reasons a year ago). I will be on business in London, UK late April-beginning of May and will have a week off after May 3. I would like to meet some witnesses/ex-witnesses while I’m in the UK, but I don’t think I know anyone in the London area or around. Please drop me a line at [email protected] if you might like to meet. Thank you.

JW persecution in Georgia and WT PR

by Drue in

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a video about jw persecution in a former soviet union republic of georgia from jw-media site.

while by no means do i support the beatings or religious intolerance, i also do dislike how the wt makes a mob violence case a vehicle for self-promotion -- a tribute to a pr department.. .

http://www.jw-media.org/video/georgia_01lo.htm

Drue

A video about JW persecution in a former Soviet Union Republic of Georgia from jw-media site. While by no means do i support the beatings or religious intolerance, i also do dislike how the WT makes a mob violence case a vehicle for self-promotion -- a tribute to a PR department.

http://www.jw-media.org/video/georgia_01lo.htm

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New World Translation Greek Scriptures in Russian

by Drue in

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this summer the wt is releasing their new world translation greek scriptures in russian.

i have known this for a while but obtained a copy only today.

since there is no full nwt in russian yet, the old testament is taken from traditional russian synodal version in one volume with new testament in the nwt rendering.. the first impression is that this is quite a fresh translation as compared with the most widely used russian version that uses archaic words and expressions and that is perhaps stylistically similar to english king james version.. jehovah is used 237 instances, as in the english variant of nwt.

Drue

and Fred Hall is not the only smart translator there is

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New World Translation Greek Scriptures in Russian

by Drue in

jw
friends

this summer the wt is releasing their new world translation greek scriptures in russian.

i have known this for a while but obtained a copy only today.

since there is no full nwt in russian yet, the old testament is taken from traditional russian synodal version in one volume with new testament in the nwt rendering.. the first impression is that this is quite a fresh translation as compared with the most widely used russian version that uses archaic words and expressions and that is perhaps stylistically similar to english king james version.. jehovah is used 237 instances, as in the english variant of nwt.

Drue

This summer the WT is releasing their New World Translation – Greek Scriptures in Russian. I have known this for a while but obtained a copy only today. Since there is no full NWT in Russian yet, the Old Testament is taken from traditional Russian Synodal Version in one volume with New Testament in the NWT rendering.

The first impression is that this is quite a fresh translation as compared with the most widely used Russian version that uses archaic words and expressions and that is perhaps stylistically similar to English King James Version.

Jehovah is used 237 instances, as in the English variant of NWT. However, while the appendix to my English copy of NWT says that out of 237 times of inserting Jehovah into Christian Scriptures 'there is only one instance where we have no agreement from the Hebrew versions', the Russian Appendix says all 237 instances have support from Hebrew translations. (This what is supposedly called 'support' doesn’t really make sense to me since the Hebrew translations are just that – translations from the Greek, where the manuscript reads either Lord or God. Anyway, anybody knows what was the additional Hebrew translation that reads Jehovah in 1 Co 7:17? – the text that had no 'support' at the time of making the English NWT?). The appendix justifying insertion (called 'restoring') of the Tetragrammaton is taken from the Kingdom Interlinear Translation and is more comprehensive than in the English NWT. Howard is quoted extensively.

Another feature is that the added words that appear in my copy of English NWT in square brackets are not bracketed in the Russian edition. Thus texts like Acts 20:28 or Colossians 1:16 do not indicate if any of the words were added by the translators.

As of now, NWT is becoming the primary translations to be used at the meetings here in Russia. The new brochure also released at the Convention quotes it 'unless otherwise indicated'.

I'm cross-posting this on the News and Events forum.

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