the witnesses try to demonize the internet.
in your opinion is the internet the biggest problem for the watchtower organization?.
The information on the net has produced a a monumental headache for the WTS. because of the hidden and unknown
historical aspect of this religious organization. In other words everything the WTS. does not want non-jws and jws alike
to know about is plastered all over the net.
They've Bullshitted themselves into power and money now that bullshit is all being revealed for
all to observe.
i have a new take on the 587/586 "controversy".
this is of course, speaking for me over 3 years after i left.
i realize that if you are first leaving, this is a big deal.
The prophet Daniel tells us, “Jerusalem will lie in ruins for seventy years.”
Embellished stories are strung throughout the bible, this prophecy was obviously just another
of the many and if don't think prophecies are made easily refer back to the many prophecies
proclaimed by the Watchtower Society over the duration of their existence.
I think its intellectually dishonest for the WTS. to hold on to 1914 and not make any mention that
for many years this year was calculated out of pyramidology ideologies and was strongly held on to by the Bible Students.
These calculations have been well hidden away from the eyes of the modern JWS though and probably for a very
good reason. The fact is though that the return of Christ was one the the biggest marketing schemes played
out by the WTS., it grew huge interest from the public back a hundred years from now, just as it does today.
In a very real sense the WTS were true marketing geniuses.
i have a new take on the 587/586 "controversy".
this is of course, speaking for me over 3 years after i left.
i realize that if you are first leaving, this is a big deal.
Babylonian Chronicle for the year 605–595 BC. First published by Donald J. Wiseman in 1956, it records the last (21st) year of the reign of Nabopolassar and the first 11 years of his son Nebuchadnezzar. Among Nebuchadnezzar’s accomplishments was the capture of Jerusalem, dated precisely to March 16, 597 BC. The document is on display in the British Museum, London. Credit: Michael Luddeni
The Bible describes the same events in some detail. When Nebuchadnezzar besieged and captured Jerusalem in 597 BC, Jehoiachin was on the throne. He took Jehoiachin, the royal family and important men in the kingdom to Babylon. He then placed Jehoiachin’s uncle, Mattaniah, on Judah’s throne and changed his name to Zedekiah (2 Kgs 24:11–17). Jehoiachin was a young man of 18 when he became king of Judah. He reigned but three months before being carried off to Babylon, where he lived out the rest of his days (2 Kgs 24:8, 12, 15; 25:27–30). Four tablets found in Nebuchadnezzar’s palace name Jehoiachin and his family as among those who were receiving rations from the king (Weidner 1939; Wiseman 1985: 81–82).
Ration record from Babylon mentioning Jehoiachin. During Robert Koldeway’s excavations at Babylon at the turn of the 20th century, he discovered what archaeologists call the “Northern Palace,” most likely the royal residence of King Nebuchadnezzar. Koldeway found there a number of cuneiform-inscribed clay tablets dating to the years 594–569 BC. They list kings captured from throughout the ancient Near East who were living in the palace and receiving rations of grain and oil from the king. Four of the tablets list rations for “Jehoiachin, king of Judah” and his family. These tablets are today in the Pergamum Museum, Berlin. Credit: Walter Pasedag
In his campaign against Jerusalem in 589–587 BC, Nebuchadnezzar laid waste all the fortified cities of Judah. While Jerusalem was being besieged, Jeremiah delivered a message to king Zedekiah concerning the fate that awaited him (Jer 34:1–7). The passage ends with the statement that the only fortified cities that were still holding out, apart from Jerusalem, were Lachish and Azekah (Jer 34:7). A group of 21 letters found at the site of Lachish date from this time period. They appear to be military communiqués sent to the military commander at Lachish from another outpost. The final words of Letter 4 echo those of Jeremiah 34:7: “we are watching the [fire] signals of Lachish…for we cannot see Azekah” (Pardee 2002: 80).
ric,.
i scanned the few pages i have from newton's 1977 book, "crime of claudius ptolemey", as well as a few explanatory pages.. it's available at:.
http://www.jwstudies.com/newton_crime_ptolemy.pdf.
I find it amusing to hear the Watchtower Society's scholars as being celebrated.
How about that clothing store owner turned evangelist C T Russell .....nope , he borrowed
most of his religious ideologies from other people and really was a religious charlatan of his time.
How about that professional lawyer that took over the publishing business
you remember that guy who insisted everyone call him a Judge when he wasn't one J. Rutherford....nope
How about the many presidents or men that made to the GB were there any studied theological scholars with
certified degrees under their belt, cant think of any.
In any case any constructed scholarship on ancient biblical times has to moved to side a bit to
make away for the new archaeological findings which are bringing dates of particualr events a bit more into focus .
The Celebrated Trueone
i have a new take on the 587/586 "controversy".
this is of course, speaking for me over 3 years after i left.
i realize that if you are first leaving, this is a big deal.
I think it was all a pass over from Russell's teachings concerning pyramidology beliefs that the WTS. thought wise to let go of,
for one being commercial reasons of the publishing corporation. Just to give an idea of how the bible students were so enthralled
with this idealogical concept they actually built a mini pyramid where Russell was laid to rest.
So you see it was a very strong part of the Bible Students beliefs which they actual hold to to this very day.
When Rutherford took over the WTS. he was with intension of disowning himself from as much of Russell teachings
as he could, which initially broke the BS away. The power of the corporation was his now and now it was the time for the
light to shine on him.
The truth is though if these men were truly sincere about their beliefs in the word of god they would have never
created there own predictions and dates, the difference was though that they owned a publishing company and proselytizing
the return of Christ drew much interest to their talks and attention to their literature.
And guess what it still does to this day
it has helped me to really find myself.
i love how my brain works now.
it never did this when i was going to the kh.......i was just another stunted unpaid employee of the wtbts..didnt even get workmans comp while peddling the tower......lol....everything is on our dime.
Good for you
And you don't have carry a moniker over yourself like APOSTATE ,
What you might be though is warm compassionate human being that is aware of men playing god is not a
good ideological social environment for yourself and others alike.
so i heard an interview with the "black eyed peas" who mention they jammed with prince at his home recently, only to have one excited member yell to prince....."your the sh#t man!
" well how would a witness react to that????
a staff member later told them prince did not like swearing in his house.
Do you like my new religiosity......ouu oouu ya yaaa
i have a new take on the 587/586 "controversy".
this is of course, speaking for me over 3 years after i left.
i realize that if you are first leaving, this is a big deal.
Good point Billy , and there lies the scholarly foundation from which the WTS has arrived at 1914 as some important
year. Debunking stupidity and ignorance is quite easy when you give it a try.
Unfortunate for the typical JWS they think what they are being taught is accurate truth, when its nothing of the sort.
Moral of the story is don't trust religious charlatans selling books and magazines, who identify themselves
as being guided by god's holy spirit, for they may be actually by guided by the holy dollar.
...but since neither of these long-lived ladies were witnesses, jehovah would have destroyed them anyway.
may they rest in peace.
monday, december 21, 2009.
Is it a juggling act or is it a slight of hand trick ?
The Anointed living before the end
if that is the new light policy, then what they have created for themselves is state of perpetual infinity
being that there is always going to be a nut case saying they are of the anointed class.
I'd assume they know that these new light policies do and will cause people to fade away
but at least they put something on the table to keep them liquid with support.
If one piece of bullshit loses its usefulness , you just have to create something else.
this question was inspired by a question on another thread.
to the ex-jw community here,.
do any of you regret learning that wt is not god's organization?
Yes, I regret the fact that my parents got involved with it, which got me involved with it.
Sure it was a disappointment for myself, that what you've been trained on since birth
was nothing but a convulsive set of lies wrapped around the commercialization of books and literature.
Quite frankly I'm relieved since I wouldn't want to see all the people I've grown to love and respect
like friends from school, relatives, neighbors etc., die by virtue of the said Armageddon.
The most prominent lie that started my exit was the WTS. bogus calculation of mans 6000 yr. existence on earth
ending up in 1975. After observing all of the psychological effects this was having onto people I personally knew,
I removed myself completely from it, that was way back in 1979.
