Weren't you the guy from Richmond BC ?
Funny as it is I left in the same year you did after being a born in myself .
thetrueone
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Schedule.. Circuit Overseer's Week Visit for my Wife..
by Poztate insunday..talk and wt (not really part of visit).
monday..prepare for tuesday meeting and she has a part.
tuesday..sm and tms... gives part.
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"Ooooohhhh I just CANT WAIT for Armageddon!"
by TimothyT inin my congregation i could name at least 10 brothers, and likely more, who just couldnt wait for armageddon to come.
the way they spoke about it clearly showed that they were just so excited.
you could just see their eyes light up at the prospect of the wicked being destroyed and removed from this earth.
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thetrueone
Postulating fear is the energy force that drives the WTS/JWS.
It can start with very young children before they can read all the way up to grown adults who may not have the had the best education behind them
or whom might be going through emotional instability.
The WTS. doesn't care for they know what they do draws people toward them for the purpose of being exploited by them.
Kind of a sinister maligning story to it all but unfortunately its " The Truth "
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"Ooooohhhh I just CANT WAIT for Armageddon!"
by TimothyT inin my congregation i could name at least 10 brothers, and likely more, who just couldnt wait for armageddon to come.
the way they spoke about it clearly showed that they were just so excited.
you could just see their eyes light up at the prospect of the wicked being destroyed and removed from this earth.
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thetrueone
Well put Zordino it is a big load of ca ca
But the WTS. has published and distributed millions of pieces of literature with this endeavored marketing strategy.
After a 100 years of doing just that, the organization has only 7 + million followers, which kind of shows the general population is not
easily fooled as you might think.
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"Ooooohhhh I just CANT WAIT for Armageddon!"
by TimothyT inin my congregation i could name at least 10 brothers, and likely more, who just couldnt wait for armageddon to come.
the way they spoke about it clearly showed that they were just so excited.
you could just see their eyes light up at the prospect of the wicked being destroyed and removed from this earth.
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thetrueone
Kind of shows what kind of sick off balanced delusional thoughts JWS have doesn't it ?
It also shows what kind of complacent fear the WTS. puts into people minds to get them to do what they want them to do
by this very corrupt deceiving publishing house.
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Video: Take a look at N. H. Knorr's elevator to his office.
by freetosee inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb2jsi_abv0&feature=related.
this wt video really shows the hierarchy within the wts.
watch the body language!
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thetrueone
The video depicts how stupid and brainwashed people can be like programed controlled drones .
Its also amazing what you accomplished from people by presenting them with a life or death situation.
If all those people knew that the WTS. hasn't gods guiding direction and they are just being exploited by men running a corrupt publishing house.
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THANK YOU Steven Unthank
by cedars inohiocowboy has just posted this information on the two other threads dealing with the sudden collapse of the unthank cases.. i don't know steven unthank, but i just want to thank him from the bottom of my heart for having the courage against overwhelming odds to try and bring the watch tower society to justice over their deplorable neglect when it comes to protecting children from abuse and molestation.. steven is a man of justice and integrity who i deeply admire.
his actions will never be forgotten, and i only hope he can find it within himself to continue his work in whatever avenue may become available in the future.. they have won this battle, but they can never win the war.. .
cedars.
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thetrueone
Has the reason why the case has been dropped been released ?
It sounded like it was going to be an easy case to win and the WTS. would have to abide to this government ruling.
I can see why the WTS. would be opposed to this stipulation being that it might reveal certain although very few elders
to have an incident of child abuse hanging over them, which would mean that elder would have to be removed
from his position. If all the other religions in Australia have to go through this review upon its congregational leaders
why are the JWS being excused in this circumstance ?
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How truly happy are you?
by Freeof1914 ini am just curious to hear of some you who have left the org completely, how happy are you?
in my situation i feel like i am on a precipice and about to make a leap into the unknown.
since i have told my family elders and wife that i will mo longer go to the meetings or out on service i feel as if a load has been lifted.
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thetrueone
Just about every religious organization pronounces that the way to true happiness is within their organization which they self identify themselves with.
Staying in the flock is protection from all evils, with is part of the propaganda indoctrination that these organizations try and infuse into people's minds.
There's an established premise to lure people toward these groups by using tactics of coercion, such as happiness in a paradise where
everyone is smiling and content, printed on the cover of a magazine or pamphlet. Once they've been lured into this control group, the individual goes
through an indoctrination process to lure others into the group, further developing the organization's power as well as financial support.
The WTS. like other religious groups uses tactics of fear and danger for anyone to step out of their controlling grasp.
The problem of course is the WTS. is just another religious inspired fraud being perpetrated on to the public and is endeared to exploit and manipulate
people for labor and financial support by the WTS. publishing corporation. There are millions living today who are quite happy without being
associated with a religious organization and some who are of course, its up to you where you want to be and where own personal integrity
stands.
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Recorded interview...Steven Unthank tells his story.
by koolaid-man inin an exclusive interview with richard rawe , steven unthank tells his complete story on charging the watchtower with criminal complaints in not complying with laws regarding background checks.
scroll down to 2-21-2012 and listen in.
http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/telenetwork/dialogue.php.
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Has the reason why the case has been dropped been released ?
It sounded like it was going to be an easy case to win and the WTS. would have to abide to this government ruling.
I can see why the WTS. would be opposed to this stipulation being that it might reveal certain although very few elders
to have an incident of child abuse hanging over them, which would mean that elder would have to be removed
from his position. If all the other religions in Australia have to go through this review upon its congregational leaders
why are the JWS being excused in this circumstance ?
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Doesn't 607 prove the Bible false?
by garbonzo inthe prophecy clearly states that the destruction of jerusuelem will be 70 years before the cast to rebuild.
yet we know the destruction of jerusuelem was not 70 years before, it was at 586 bce, not 607 bce.
so this here is a clear contradiction between secular evidence and the bible.. atheists = win..
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thetrueone
The bible and archaeological evidence coincide and support much of the events of that era.
Re-read my previous post to understand all thats worthy to consider.
And no Larsinger you've proved nothing but your refusal to accept that you haven't considered evidence from the
bible and archaeological findings.
Why don't you take your newly found understanding of these dates to a recognized University like Oxford ? Present your information
with them and when they return their answer back, post it up here on this forum.
The REAL reason the JWS have their dates wrong and they are indeed false prophets
The 1914 Chronology
by James White
A. Establishing an Ancient Date 1. Fixed Dates
2. King List
3. Cuneiform Tablets
4. CorrelationB. Astronomical Data
1. VAT 4956
- astronomical observations made during Nebuchadnezzar’ s 37th regnal year - 568/67 B. C. Hence, his first regnal year was spring 604 B. C., or, using Babylonian reckoning, 605/04 B. C., or, in Jewish civil calendar, it was 606/05 B. C., fall to fall.
2. BM n.4. 76-11 - Cambyses 7th regnal year 523/22 B.C. We shall see that Cyrus was enthroned 16 years earlier, 538/37 B. C.
3. Ptolemy’s Alamgest records 19 lunar eclipses. Two are here significant - April 21, 621 B. C., which was in the 5th year of Nabopolassar. Second was 11:00PM, July 16, 523 B. C., the 7th of Cambyses. Note the correlation between VAT 4956 and Almagest:
Eclipse: Nabopolassar’s first year = 626 B.C.
Nabopolassar’s last year = 605 B. C.
VAT 4956: 37th year of Nebuchadnezzar = 568 B. C.
First year of Nebuchadnezzar = 605 B. C.4. Considerations:
Since Cyrus took the throne in 538/37 B. C., the Jews could have settled in Jerusalem by 537/36 B.C. (2 Chronicles 36: 22-23, Ezra 1: 1-3: 6) . Hence, the 70 years, reckoning inclusively, would have begun in 606/05 B.C. fall to fall (Jewish calendar). This has been locked in as Nebuchadnezzar's accession year.C. Establishing a Ring List
1. Nabonidus Stele A -
1906 (Aid, p. 327).
2. Nabonidus Stele B - 1956; also called Harren Stele B.King List: Nabopolassar 21 years
Nebuchadnezzar 43 years
Amel-Marduk 2 years
Neniglissar 4 years
Nabonidus ?D. Cuneiform Tablets
On the basis of’ over 4,000 tablets:
Nabopolassar 21 yrs May 17, 626
- Aug 15, 605
Nebuchadnezzar 43 yrs Sept 7, 605 - Oct 8, 562
Amel-Marduk 2 yrs Oct 8, 562 - Aug 7, 560
Nergal-shar-usur 4 yrs Aug 13, 560 - Apr 16, 556
Labashi-Marduk 2 mos May 3, 556 - Jun 20, 556
Nabunaid 17 yrs May 25,556 - Oct 13, 539
Cyrus 9 yrs Oct 26, 539 - Aug 12, 530
Cambyses 8 yrs Aug 31, 530 - Apr 18, 522E. Correlation:
Nabopolassar 21 yrs 626 - 605 5th yr
- 621/620 AlmagestNebuchadnezzar 43 yrs 605 - 562 37th yr - 568/567 VAT 4956
Evil-Merodach 2 yrs 562 - 560
Neriglissar 2 yrs 560 - 556
Labashi-Marduk 2 mos 556
Nabonidus 17 yrs 556 - 5 39 Cyrus 9 yrs 539 - 530
Cambyses 8 yrs 530 - 522 7th yr - 523/522 Almagest, BM n. 4. 78-11F. Biblical Considerations:
1. Interpreting the 70 years
- Two views:
A. Seventy years began in Nebuchadnezzar’s 19th regnal, year when he destroyed Jerusalem, removed Zedekiah, and took the populace captive. 2 Kings 24:18-25:21, 2 Chronicles 36: 11-21.
B. This view also marks the end of the 70 years with the return of the Jews to Jerusalem. However, it marks the beginning in the 4th regnal year of Jehoiakim, corresponding to Nebuchadnezzar’s first regnal year., 605 B. C. C Daniel 1: 1-6, 2 Kings 24: 1)
. This view also sees Jeremiah 25:12 as significant.
2. Which view fits?
View A: 70 year period: 607
- 537 B. C.
Nebuchadnezzar’ s 19th year: 607 B. C. Nebuchadnezzar’s 1st year: 626 B.C.70 year period: 605 - 537 B.C. (incl) Nebuchadnezzar’ s 19th year: 586 B. C.
Nebuchadnezzar’s 1st year: 605 B.C.View B:
3. supporting evidence: BM 21946 records:
Nebuchadnezzar conquered “Hatti-land” Sept. 605 B.C.
4th regnal year (601/600) defeated by Egypt
6th regnal year (599/598) quelled rebelling Arabs
Next winter, 598/97, took Jehoiakin (2 Kings 24:14) as well as Ezekiel.
Notice - Nebuchadnezzar was not even king in 607!BM 22047 says that Nabopolassar was king in 607, and that he led a military campaign against “the mountains of Za” in Assyria!
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thetrueone
What does any high control religious organization expect to say about evolution ?
If fear and ignorance keeps people in subjective control and financial support toward that structured organization,
to teach anything objectively would essentially weaken that said control.
This is the reason why many religious organizations demean higher education or knowledge thats outside of their own teachings.
The WTS./JWS is just one of those religious organizations.