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i thought the same thing when i saw this thread title.....since when have they ever waited for an invite?
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Invitation To Americans To Find Fault With The British..
by Englishman in.
i thought we ought to even things up a little... go for it!.
no obscenities please.
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That's because we travel abroad much more than the Americans do.
that may be true, i dont know the statistics on it. personally, ive been overseas, and would like to travel more....but i do hope that traveling will never give me that same obsession......i wouldnt want to spend my energy on such a fruitless endeavor.
so, we are on the "invitation to find fault with the british" thread, and ive really yet to do so specifically.....ill take the opportunity now. your post along with mine reminded me of the main complaint i have with many of the british (on this forum)......its the "we are better" mentality that i see blasted all over the place. take your above post for example....it just reeks of "we are better because we travel more and our minds are broadened.....americans refuse to broaden their minds". sweeping generalizations such as these are rampant here. i hear constantly that americans think they have the best country in the world, but i have to say the competivite juices (when it comes to comparing countries) seem to come from the non-americans on this board for the most part. i personally dont think it accomplishes much.
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Invitation To Americans To Find Fault With The British..
by Englishman in.
i thought we ought to even things up a little... go for it!.
no obscenities please.
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No, it's more that we're likely to just say "yup ... it's crap".
you dont get it. let me help you:
indifference (bold/italic mine):
absence of anxiety or interest in respect to what is presented to the mind; unconcernedness
understand? it means, most of the time you wouldnt even get the chance to "defend the indefensible", because the criticism wouldnt happen to begin with.......its simply not interesting enough to even bring up in the first place. like i said, we just dont share the obsession you (appear to) have with the shortcomings of other countries.......or the need for contant inter-continental competition you (seem to) possess.
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Invitation To Americans To Find Fault With The British..
by Englishman in.
i thought we ought to even things up a little... go for it!.
no obscenities please.
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Seeing the reluctance to really criticize the UK by a mainly American group of people
is it reluctance or indifference? personally i just dont think amercians are as obsessed with the shortcomings of other countries as our "trans-atlantic cousins" are. its not really that interesting, for example, to make a fuss about the problems of the british legal system.......what would it accomplish? maybe we just dont feel the same need to turn everything into an us vs. them competition.?.
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Why I Think Politics SHOULD Be Considered Here
by minimus ini was looking at valis' thread and i agree that being insulting, provoking or rabid is out of order in any type of discussion.
when people in general, anywhere, talk about religion or politics, it usually sets up sides.
one of the things that jehovah's witnesses were not allowed to do ever, was to get involved in any type of political discussion.
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dubla
..and so the thread degenerates slowly
ah, improvement! they usually degenerate quickly!
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letterman has been doing a hilarious skit on ken every night where he attempts to show how kens winning streak is fixed.......its the same regurgitated joke over and over, but i laugh out loud every time.
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Why I May Vote for Kerry
by roybatty ini'm a registered republican but i have to admit that after looking at john kerry's web site, i may have to sway my vote his way.
what caught my eye is kerry's attention toward jobs leaving for overseas countries and how the government can at least stop encouraging (and rewarding)large corporations from doing this.
at bush's site, i don't see anything about this huge problem facing america.
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He only voted yes on that because he believed the information he had been lied to about.
i just really think this is a copout. the same argument can be made about bush, that he was "lied" to by our intelligence agencies, and thats why he truly believed iraq had wmd stockpiles. clinton gave the exact same information to our nation about saddams wmd stockpiles....did clinton also lie to us? if he did, couldnt the case be made that bush had false beliefs about saddam and iraq due to the "false" information he had been given by clinton? (surely the bush administration didnt scrap all intelligence records and documents from the former administration when they took office.) its really an argument that falls flat when take everyones statements (dating back to clinton) into consideration. when you start saying one side lied and the other side didnt, youre just following partisan lines.
my personal opinion is that clinton and bush both truly believed saddam had substantial wmds, and for good reason.....he couldnt or refused to prove he destroyed them. its a pretty simple conclusion to come to unless you have a personal agenda against one party.
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"We will follow them to the US"-is this guy as moron?
by IronGland in"the insurgents' aspirations are growing.
abdullah, a midlevel leader of kata'ib, says he's happy u.s. troops are staying in iraq: it means he can be part of the jihad.
asked what the jihadists will do if u.s. forces finally pull out, one of abdullah's comrades offers this answer: "we will follow them to the u.s." .
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I know the answer. Lets just destroy all our weapons and hold hands and sing. Nobody will ever bother to try to punk the US around then. We'll just send everyone e-cards to let them know how much we love them. Is that the proper solution?
no, no, you have it all wrong.....we have to give them MONEY, lots and lots of CA$H. until the wealth of this planet is spread evenly, the rich nations will always be hated and attacked by terrorists. destroying all of our weapons would be a good start though......if lunatic dictators like saddam arent allowed to have them, why should we? aa
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Why I May Vote for Kerry
by roybatty ini'm a registered republican but i have to admit that after looking at john kerry's web site, i may have to sway my vote his way.
what caught my eye is kerry's attention toward jobs leaving for overseas countries and how the government can at least stop encouraging (and rewarding)large corporations from doing this.
at bush's site, i don't see anything about this huge problem facing america.
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And who was it that mislead Kerry, and everyone else, into believing that? You believed it, didn't you, when your president said they were there?
if you want to play that game, then for starters clinton "mislead" us all about saddams wmds. if youd like some quotes to prove this, let me know. if its really a matter of "misleading", then clinton in fact mislead g.w.bush before he was ever president!
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Why I May Vote for Kerry
by roybatty ini'm a registered republican but i have to admit that after looking at john kerry's web site, i may have to sway my vote his way.
what caught my eye is kerry's attention toward jobs leaving for overseas countries and how the government can at least stop encouraging (and rewarding)large corporations from doing this.
at bush's site, i don't see anything about this huge problem facing america.
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Kerry......never gave orders to the US military to conquer and occupy a foreign country unprovoked.
can you explain to me why kerry voting for the above is somehow more forgivable in your eyes than giving the order? he did everything in his power to make sure we invaded iraq....his power was simply limited to voting yes or no. if he truly believed it was the wrong thing to do, wouldnt he have voted no? doesnt the fact that he repeated all of the presidents views on iraqs wmds, not to mention also tying iraq to terrorism (my above quote), show that he in fact completely supported going to war, indeed believed it was the right thing to do? how is this different from the presidents belief that it was the right thing to do?.......just because he gave the actual order that kerry (and everyone else that voted yes) directly supported and in essence TOLD him to give? im very interested in hearing your logic on this.
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