i am pulling this out of the "subject" thread so more folks can see:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=16702&site=3.
big thanks to those activists who worked behind the scenes to get this story published.. this is not one of the locations that i'm personally involved with, but one where others of like mind took the bull by the horns.
I remember William Schnell warning in his book in 1957 about the book sales events that, in reality, were what the conventions were.
In 1975 a crack team of publishers was sentenced to death by a judicial commiteee. They promptly escaped from the cult and now live life on the run. If you have a problem ... and if you can find them ... maybe you can contact the A--postate Team"
ummm...question re my mothers status...she got dfd 3 months ago and expected to be shunned.
indeed, i told her she would be shunned.. but she reckons that everyone is being real nice, talking to her in the street, etc, has there been a change of policy?.
ive been out a long time and would have expected shunning.. shes starting to think of me as a false prophet.
refiners fire said...>Id sure like the opinion of a resident site expert, like Farkelman or Amazing...but theyve all abandoned us.<
Harumph...why didn't you just email him in the first place then?
And seeing as how (((AlanF))) has posted nine times in the last two days, when did he abandon us pray tell?
Dungbeetle...of the <snorting> class
oh and flower...see my answering post up there? See the pretty little colored line? Click on it, or cut and paste or whatever, that is a relevent Watchtower article.
<sigh>
In 1975 a crack team of publishers was sentenced to death by a judicial commiteee. They promptly escaped from the cult and now live life on the run. If you have a problem ... and if you can find them ... maybe you can contact the A--postate Team"
i hope that they will be treated with respect and shown some consideration!.
if someone doesn't believe their story then i don't believe they should cast doubt on the person or attack them as i doubt they have all the facts.. i am extremely dissappointed to think that someone could come to the forum for support and be shot down like this.
I have seen no one come to this forum and not get support if they behave like decent human beings.
1) If they have problems getting along with people in real life, they're going to have problems getting along with people on this forum. Such is life.
2) NO ONE has the right to come to this forum and expect us to be a substitue for trained and licensed Thereapists---NO ONE. I have seen it happen here. If we want to feel better, we need to make positive change, and there are a lot of examples on this board of people who have done this. NO ONE has the right to come to a public discussion forum and demand everyone to change, either blatantly or subversively by crying 'foul'.
((((Simon and mrs. Simon))))
In 1975 a crack team of publishers was sentenced to death by a judicial commiteee. They promptly escaped from the cult and now live life on the run. If you have a problem ... and if you can find them ... maybe you can contact the A--postate Team"
can anyone with more computer techie knowledge than i have help me?.
i have a question on installing the newest version of the wts cd-rom because, in the recent topic on "yearbook experiences" an experiences was related from the 1971 yearbook, and thirdson requested a copy of it as his cd-rom only had yearbooks back to 1980.. this prompted me to check my 1995 version, and the yearbooks go back to 1971, so if i install my newer version, i understand it overrides the installed older version and therefore some older info will be lost.
i don't want to lose this older stuff as it is good to be able to reference it to compare all the flipflops and incriminating statements they've made to date.. soooooo.... my question: is there a way i can retain the older version on my harddrive and still install the newest version?.
Would you please care to share that '1971' yearbook 'thing' with us? Now you have me curious....
In 1975 a crack team of publishers was sentenced to death by a judicial commiteee. They promptly escaped from the cult and now live life on the run. If you have a problem ... and if you can find them ... maybe you can contact the A--postate Team"
my teenage son approached my husband and me yesterday to inform us that he wants to get baptized at the summer convention.
ugh!.
he hasn't shown an interest in witness things for several months until a cousin from up north came to visit and took him out in service all day.
What Alan and the others said, and furthermore...
is the child aware of previous teachings of the Watchtower? Since baptism means dedication to the organization, what if they went back to these teachings? They could, you know. Like the rape resistance, Sodom and Gomorah resurrections, elder appointments.
I wish these young people could go to Laree Slack's parents or the Stovall brothers' trial. Let him read 'Blood crimes' by Fred Rosen. And on and on and on. <sigh>.
And I really think some of the people have hit the nail on the head here.....what the heck is going on at home that makes the Jehovah's Witnesses look so good?
These are tough questions, I know. The answers I think are inward, not outward, as with all aspiring cultists.
In 1975 a crack team of publishers was sentenced to death by a judicial commiteee. They promptly escaped from the cult and now live life on the run. If you have a problem ... and if you can find them ... maybe you can contact the A--postate Team"
mr.bowen, i just finished reading from your site.
i take it you are a high raking offical in the organization?
it was brave for you to stand up for the "little lambs" who cannot speak for themselves.. i have this question: do you feel like leaving was wise ??
the Watchtower brags that they have over 90,000 congregations in 230 lands speaking hundreds of languages.
with all respect, Danni I don't think Bill is going to protect all these children in all these places by attending his 5 hours a week of meetings.
1) The parents of these children need to be educated.
2) These parents have to WANT to be educated.
He has a family of his own as well, and this has not been easy for them.
(((silentlambs and family)))
In 1975 a crack team of publishers was sentenced to death by a judicial commiteee. They promptly escaped from the cult and now live life on the run. If you have a problem ... and if you can find them ... maybe you can contact the A--postate Team"
i have a suggestion.
ok, we do not want to lose people like farkel, alan, mind..........hmmmmmmmmmm, this fluff mind is drawing a blank on names here.
hmmmm, oh yeah focus is one.
It just seems to me that a very simple solution, for people who think they aren't getting enough attention, is to start their own webpage, like zev did.
It's a big internet out there, what's the big deal? If you think your stuff is so important, you should be willing to pay for it to be put up, and maybe other people will help you as well.
If you don't care enough to pay 10.00 a month for something, well....
In 1975 a crack team of publishers was sentenced to death by a judicial commiteee. They promptly escaped from the cult and now live life on the run. If you have a problem ... and if you can find them ... maybe you can contact the A--postate Team"
hello eveyone.
forgive me for just jumping in your threads without giving some information about myself.. my name is danni.
i am a law enforcement officer.
My email's open if anyone needs it...
I go to bed now..
In 1975 a crack team of publishers was sentenced to death by a judicial commiteee. They promptly escaped from the cult and now live life on the run. If you have a problem ... and if you can find them ... maybe you can contact the A--postate Team"
how bout those jw's,when they come to town they bring the ten commandments and a twenty dollar bill.
they do not break either one of them.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/azstar/20020103/lo/tcc_losing_out_on_concert_revenue_1.html.
Somebody's up early.....((((( ))))))
In 1975 a crack team of publishers was sentenced to death by a judicial commiteee. They promptly escaped from the cult and now live life on the run. If you have a problem ... and if you can find them ... maybe you can contact the A--postate Team"
ummm...question re my mothers status...she got dfd 3 months ago and expected to be shunned.
indeed, i told her she would be shunned.. but she reckons that everyone is being real nice, talking to her in the street, etc, has there been a change of policy?.
ive been out a long time and would have expected shunning.. shes starting to think of me as a false prophet.
Right here and right now, I say to you there has been no change to the Society's mandates regarding disfellowshipped JW's--even children--
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=16416&site=3
What change there has been, it seems, is that the Society is so beseiged on so many fronts
...they may be losing their emotional/mental stranglehold in some congregations,at least temporarily, especially outside of North America.
Perhaps there is hope yet!!!
In 1975 a crack team of publishers was sentenced to death by a judicial commiteee. They promptly escaped from the cult and now live life on the run. If you have a problem ... and if you can find them ... maybe you can contact the A--postate Team"
