It's not just a river in Egypt,......:-)
LoL Twitch ;-)
i have been told to study this book with a sister so that i may can be indoctrinatedadjusted according to bullshitaccurate knowledge.. i dont have this book, nor do i remember reading it, or studying it, just wanted a head's up from those of you who may have it, or know where i can read a copy of it online...any help is really appreciated.. thank you in advance!.
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It's not just a river in Egypt,......:-)
LoL Twitch ;-)
lately i've come to the conclusion that i cannot change my past 14 wasted years with the borg; i can only learn from my experiences and resolve to improve on my life from here on out.
i no longer have to "wait for jehovah" or the "new system" to make my life better; i can apply my own intellect, power of reasoning, and free will to accomplish what i want to do.. one thing i've come to appreciate is that had i not been a jw, and in turn an ex-jw, i may have never actually questioned the deep philosophical issues that are discussed on this board.
i may be stuck as a "nominal" christian (forgive the wt-speak), being content to half-heartedly believe what i was raised to believe.
The positives i take away from being a jehovah's witness is learning about biblical love, and other interesting subjects, and learning about other cultures. It taught me to view humankind as one big family, I think that's one positive thing they do teach..
i'm looking for the art that was in the back of the "sing praises to jehovah" songbook.
i tried some image searches, but no luck.
anybody know where i can find this without actually purchasing the book?
Remember the one old guy who had his hands clutching his chest while singing with his eyes closed?
I drew a BIG ARROW sticking out of his chest at the meeting one Sunday, making my brother crack up at the seat! LOL! i still laugh thinking about that.....
the other singing (priests?) men eventually got drawn with various things coming out of their mouth,
sorry i wasnt any help......
did you ever sense that your own brothers and sisters looked down upon you?
I think it was 2 memorials ago when I went, and I visited an old congregation of mine, and this one sister went so far so as to look down her nose in my direction (which she could since she is a foot taller - I'm 5'0) THEN turned her nose up in the air, did not look me in the face, and walked away. I kid you not, she did just that.
many others were alot kinder and nicer just to see me there, but that one sister stood out in my mind.
Some looked down on me when i started to go to less and less meetings, only a few would speak to me, the others were obviously of such high caliber spirituality that they wouldnt think of tarnishing themselves by saying hello to me. lol
were you looked down apon, minimus?
yep, i opened a letter and received a highlighted 5 page print out from the watchtower library cd.
i find it somewhat insulting they think i'm lost and wasting my life.
i'm curious to see how others have responded to this kind of treatment..
(((mavie)))
sorry to hear that your parents wrote you a letter like that...
just a side thought, when I read the title of your thread, i was excited, I thought I was going to read about how your parents lovingly welcomed you back with open arms and threw a sumptious feast for you, and didnt expect any acts of repentence from you....
sorry to hear that they treated you like the pharisees that they emulate...
when i started researching i was still convinced that jws had the truth.
so i read some critical articles by ex-jws about certain teaching and i started to do some more research.. at this time i have successfully faded and no longer believe anymore.
but i can remember the moment when i first allowed the thought in my mind that it could all be false and not the truth.
I concur with the above posters...at first when I was just a fader but still a believer, i felt some guilt at not going
when I started doing more research it was like the scales were falling off of my eyes,,,,,i was soooo relieved to find that I wasnt a fool for not believing what was being written...everything I was learning just confirmed what I felt in my gut, that I was following men.
Feels soooooooooooo GOOD to know that they are JUST men.
I am no longer brainwashed!
a fledging relationship goes up in smoke.
it was 1973 and the wt was in full cult mode.
they wanted to purify the organization in preparation for the coming "great day of jehovah.
tsof,
I hope you and your dad can reconnect again
i dont believe much of the societys teachings anymore.
but theres one thing that i carried with me all my life:
when everything is false, what is about those stories about demons, seances and all that stuff that is out in the world?
Excellent points to ponder
If demons are real, then god must exsist, since demons are just fallen angels, right?
I wonder how atheists explain paranormal activity?
I am open-minded to all sorts of possibilites, I will never let myself follow one way of thinking ever again...so i choose to let the facts speak for themselves...
is there paranormal activity,? yes, thousands of people couldnt be making up stories, most of these stories have basis on reality and fact.
can i explain them? maybe it's demons and aliens?
or demons pretending to be aliens? lol i dont know....I just know that unexplained events do occur.
As for the JW aspect of it, I am excited to learn that other religions could ward off demon attacks as well, and i've even heard of experiences where good standing JW's calling on Jehovah's name had NO effect on the demon attack.
have you ever walked on the beach and tried following another persons footprints; matching your own steps with them as exactly as possible?
by calling ourselves christians, we have indicated our desire to do just that, to follow closely in the footsteps of christ.
have you ever noticed though that on a crowded beach, , there were several sets of footprints, many of them may look alike.
Isnt it funny How the Society tells the rank and file brothers and sisters what apostates believe and do, and yet do not let the rank and file see for themselves if this is really so. I remember how I used to think I knew what apostates were about, and I was WRONG.
IF the GOVERNING BODY and the WATCH TOWER BIBLE TRACT SOCIETY have nothing to hide, they would allow their doctrines to be scrutinized and thoroughly examined against the facts and their past teachings, to let JW's read other Bibles to see the inconsistencies, to read about the translator of New World Translation....Yes I used to think that it was infallible, that it was unbiased....wow, was I WRONG.
Does not a dictatorship tell the masses what to read, what to think, what to believe???
Do you think that communist countries are in the right to tell their people what to believe and how to live their life?
Do you think Hitler's viewpoint was correct, or was it a psychoctic dictatorship?
Now tell me if you can honestly say that the Society doesn't have total control over what you are allowed to view, read, hear and think???
When you wake up and realize that you are listening to men who claim to have guidance from god, you will understand why the society doesnt want you to read ''apostate'' information.
it is because they are SCARED you will learn the truth about their lies and deceit....
How would you feel if you found out that your wife of 10 years had been cheating on you for the last 10 years and that she wasnt the person that you thought you married...wouldnt you be angry and upset? Wouldnt you feel hurt and betrayed?
That's how you will feel after learning about their history and the tactics used by the Society on it's great crowd of little sheep.
You can choose to believe me or not, but I tell you this much I have nothing, absolutely nothing to gain by telling you this.
I just want people to be happy, and if The Organization does that for you, then great, stay blissfully ignorant. but when things start to bother you, when that little voice of doubt starts to get louder in your head, you will understand that where I am coming from, and you will do research into the religion that has held your life in it's hands.
-found
i have been told to study this book with a sister so that i may can be indoctrinatedadjusted according to bullshitaccurate knowledge.. i dont have this book, nor do i remember reading it, or studying it, just wanted a head's up from those of you who may have it, or know where i can read a copy of it online...any help is really appreciated.. thank you in advance!.
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oh never mind, i finally understood the point of that scripture
hahahhaa
nice
it is true, i am a faithless, worthless person Fred, thanks for pointing that out.
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