I saw it Lisa, and you're absolutely right. They would both make such perfect little witnesses. Also, they had the same brain dead responses to questions and that "on the brink of hysteria" look in their eyes. And.... they're going back!!
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More TheoKratic War Strategy on Dateline.
by LDH indid anyone catch dateline last night, about the two southern baptist girls who went to afghanistan?.
here is the link, if you care to read the whole story, which is quite remarkable:.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/762889.asp.
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DEAR WTS, I love your new director.......
by deddaisy inanother example of gross hypocrisy - do they honestly think that these type of things will never be discovered?
unbelievable.
i suppose their excuse is that the shares were donated as gifts and through wills etc, yet surely they should not accept them if they are not appropriate to the teachings of the organisation.
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Dutchie
LOL@Nathan Natas. Enron or the Producers, eh Nathan?
You tell 'em dedaisy!
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New policy on disellowshipping and blood.
by MARTINLEYSHON in.
where in the bible would you find god's representatives behaving in such a deceitful manner?.
francois
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Dutchie
There is also the "one shot deal" regarding a blood transfusion. If you take a blood transfusion and you are later sorry and express regret, you are forgiven and allowed to remain a part of the organization. This is only allowed once. After that, you're on your own!
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New Survivor Show
by mpatrick inhave you heard about the next planned "survivor" show?
mark burnett, producer of "survivor" plans to enlist 12 men, who will be dropped in an unidentified suburb with a van, six kids (each of whom play two sports and take either a musical instrument or dance class), and no access to fast food.
they must keep the house clean, correct all homework (receiving at least a "b+" on all papers), complete one science project, cook (ok, they can bring one cookbook), do laundry, etc.
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Dutchie
Now thats a "Survivor"! The men would cave in 24 hours!
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Thanks to JWD / Tribute to Catholic Church
by Amazing inthat's about what my hubby's heart attack bill came to as well, about $50,000.
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Amazing, I am sure that this lessens your load of worry. I' so glad that things are going to work out for you and your family.
Best regards . (Hooray for the Catholic Church)
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Attorney's response-Minors-baptism-verbl-cntract
by Cappuccino OC inthis is the response that an attorney, practicing in the state of ca, responded to my question if minors are bound the verbal contract (questions 1, 2 given after the baptism talk).
"nice to hear from you.
in response to your question, although i am not a contracts attorney (i have some knowledge in the area), in my opionion, i don't believe that you can contract with a minor and force a minor to perform under the contract.
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Thanks Angry, I appreciate your response.
I realize, though, that sometimes people just want to vent. It makes them feel good to rant and they really don't want to hear logical explanations. YOU know that!
Six generations, huh? I'm a third generation myself. My grandmother went from door to door with the old record player and cards.
I stopped goinjg to meetings a while ago because there were so many things I wanted to do with my life. I have never been disfellowshipped and I have not disassociated myself because I do not want to break ties with my family. However, just because I am no longer one of jehovahs witnesses does not mean that I have abandoned all moral sense and conscience. I don't feel that I have to do all sorts of immoral things in order to validate myself. So actually most things that I didn't do as a witness, I don't do now. The difference is that now my morality is not legislated by a bogus religion.
Anyway, Angry, there is nothing we can do to change the past.
We have to look to the future. Now I want you to go and think of some things you are grateful for and maybe we can get rid of some of that anger.
Best regards.
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Cure for Heart Disease !
by Amazing inafter i had the big one, i moved quickly into medical books to determine what furute treatment would be my choice for dealing with my 'heart condition.
1. coronary by-pass: this is currently very accepted, and may be needed, but i am holding off for now.
the idea of someone cracking my sternum open and lifting out my heart to splice leg arteries into it seems difficult and radical without at least exploring other options.
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Dutchie
Amazing, won't your insurance pay for it?
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Attorney's response-Minors-baptism-verbl-cntract
by Cappuccino OC inthis is the response that an attorney, practicing in the state of ca, responded to my question if minors are bound the verbal contract (questions 1, 2 given after the baptism talk).
"nice to hear from you.
in response to your question, although i am not a contracts attorney (i have some knowledge in the area), in my opionion, i don't believe that you can contract with a minor and force a minor to perform under the contract.
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Hello AngryJW:
First of all I would just like to mention that you really are angry, aren't you? We could be all wrong, the people on this forum make mistakes all the time, but isn't it good to throw out ideas and see what comes back? If you see a mistake isn't there a better way to voice it without seeming so mean? My goodness!
Anyway, I have noted your comments and since you are so knowledgeable, perhaps you can answer this. What the poster is trying to bring about, I guess, is that his infant baptism be dissolved and accordingly not have to be faced with the shunning aspect, because we know as a witness you cannot just say "goodbye" and walk away unscathed.
Since the Watchtower is not only a religion but also a corporation, incorporated under the laws of the State of New York, can't it be held responsible for injury caused to its members? I know that religious law and secular law are separate but isn't there some instance where they intertwine?
If an infant can prove that his baptism was harmful and that it caused him psychological damage or some such thing, doesn't he have the right to sue? Maybe this has just not be proven in a court of law but somehow it seems feasible.
Now, please, don't call me names. As per your suggestion, I have in front of me piles of law books and guides and I am studying hard. I am even thinking about taking that Kaplan course. I have enough stress, don't give me more.
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Religion Wins Too Often
by Dutchie ini thought this was interesting:.
when religion and children's welfare are at odds, religion wins too often
why is it, in this society, that we have been so willing to accommodate religious institutions at the risk of children's welfare?
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Dutchie
I thought this was interesting:
When Religion and Children's Welfare Are At Odds, Religion Wins Too Often
Why is it, in this society, that we have been so willing to accommodate religious institutions at the risk of children's welfare? In legal clashes, before the Supreme Court and within our legislatures, religious institutions and religious parents tend to win even when it means that children lose.
For example, the clergy--the ones who should be serving the highest good--have been granted exemptions from state statutes that require other caretakers of children to report child abuse. The cost of this exemption is not just that child abuse may go unreported; the exemption also tends to destroy the chance it will be punished if it is later reported due to the unrealistic statutes of limitations in so many states.
For instance, this type of exemption allows the Catholic Church to raise the tissue-paper-thin but, to some, persuasive defense "the law did not require us to report," as a reason the state should not intrude into church business. Yet, requiring reporting of child abuse allegations will enable the state to automatically get the information it needs from the church - without having to bear the unfair burden of first proving the very allegations it is seeking to investigate.
The undue latitude for religion where children are concerned does not stop with the Church - far from it. For example, Christian Science and Jehovah's Witness parents have been given exemptions from medical neglect charges, even though their children have easily treated diseases and even though they suffer. And in the landmark case Wisconsin v. Yoder , the Supreme Court held that, despite Wisconsin's compulsory education law, an Amish family had the right to end their children's education at 8 th grade for religious reasons.
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Does Watchtower Society monitor this board?
by Quotes ini've seen it mentioned many times in many threads: "the society monitors jwd, don't post anything you don't want them to know etc.
i have even made that point myself in the past.. my question is this: does the wtbts monitor this discussion board?.
or have we all been propagating our own xjw urban myth?.
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Dutchie
Yeah, you're probably right. Who knows why they do anything. They are paranoid and suspicious of everybody and everything.