Posts by Dutchie

I want to introduce some interesting developments in JW blood treatment. Below is the copy of a recent article from Australia which reports the first case of the peripheral blood stem cell (PBSC) autografting done on a JW patient. When WTS permitted bone marrow transplants (BMT), I thought that this new technique would be the next logical step. Now, it's finally been done on a JW patient. To explain in plain terminology, when patients with leukemia and other cancer receive heavy doses of chemotherapy, their bone marrow fails and stops producing blood cells. BMT has been the way to restore normal bone marrow function in those cases. Now in PBSC transplants, this can be achieved by reinfusing a part of the patient's white blood cells (called CD34+) which are predeposited when they are massively recruited after chemotherapy. This method is much more benign and less invasive than BMT. This is now frequently being used treating leukemia and cancer.

Article Title: Clinical and ethical issues in the treatment of a Jehovah's Witness with acute myeloblastic leukemia.

Article Source: Arch Intern Med 1997 Aug 11-25;157(15):1753-7

Author(s): Kerridge I; Lowe M; Seldon M; Enno A; Deveridge S

Abstract: We report the first documented case of the use of peripheral blood stem cell autografting in the treatment of a Jehovah's Witness with acute myeloblastic leukemia. This case illustrates the complex ethical and clinical issues that arise in the treatment of such patients.

Author's Address: Health Law and Ethics Program, University of Newcastle, Australia.

Now, in terms of JW doctrine, this is another interesting contradiction, because the white blood cells used in this treatment are collected with leukapheresis (a machine to selectively collect white blood cells from the donor's blood) and deposited and then reinfused to the patient later. This is exactly the same procedure as white blood cell transfusion which is prohibited in the current blood doctrine. The only difference is that the name of the procedure is called "autografting", which sounds more like transplants than transfusion, and the setting of leukapheresis is for CD34+, rather than usual granulocyte.

Here is an interesting paragraph from this article.

When a Jehovah's Witness is diagnosed with AML, it is important that these issues are confronted immediately. Any new forms of therapy, such as the use of autologous stem cell grafts, should be discussed with patients early in the course of the disease. Patients will then frequently seek advice from the Jehovah's Witness liaison committees about the therapies in question. In considering bone marrow transplants and peripheral blood stem cell autografts in this case, the local committee sought further advice from Jehovah's Witnesses in the United States but decided, in the end, that the use of these techniques was up to the conscience of the individual concerned.

My feeling is that if the procedure had been presented as essentially the same as "white blood cell transfusion", WTS would have said "no". In this case, it was presented as the same as "bone marrow transplants", and the WTS said "OK, conscience matter". I think this is a good case to show how arbitrary and how murky is the boundary between permitted and prohibited treatment

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Birthday Wishes to Dutchie

by DakotaRed in

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to one of the kindest posters here who has never said an unkind word to anyone.

may you have a very enjoyable day and celebrate many more in health and happiness.

glucklicher geburtstag happy birthday dutchie.

Dutchie

Sixy, I'm in awe.

I must say that your presentation is one the nicest things I've received so far.

Thank you very much. Love, Dutchie

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Birthday Wishes to Dutchie

by DakotaRed in

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to one of the kindest posters here who has never said an unkind word to anyone.

may you have a very enjoyable day and celebrate many more in health and happiness.

glucklicher geburtstag happy birthday dutchie.

Dutchie

Oh My Goodness. I am so surprised. Anyway, this is the last birthday I'm having. I'm sticking with the age I am now (none of your business).

Thank you Dakota Red. You flatter me by remembering.

Thank you everyone for your well wishes.

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Cheesy Question:

by Englishman in

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what's your favourite cheese, please?.

mine's gruyere, a swiss cheese that is absolutely scrummy.http://www.cheese.com/description.asp?name=gruyere.

of course, i still enjoy the noble stilton, danish blue and there ain't nothing to compare to a genuine parmesan with pasta.. but, gruyere takes some beating, i reckon.. englishman.

Dutchie

Gouda. Yummy!

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Britneys new website....

by PopeOfEruke in

click this!

--------> britneys spears new website

thats not really britney is it???.

Dutchie

Pope, I really think that Brittany's boobs are better.

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My grandma

by Vivamus in

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my grandma was a remarkable woman, with a sense of humour that could crack me up.

and she had the determination to make everything she started a success.

she never gave up, and fought for everything she hold dear.

Dutchie

Viv, please accept my sincere condolences on the loss of your beloved gran.

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Fish could be hazardous to your health...

by MegaDude in

from the article.

"tuna is the most consumed fish in the country," bender says.

"if you're a pregnant woman and you eat over two cans of tuna per week, you can go over" safe levels of mercury.

Dutchie

My goodness, I eat tuna for lunch everyday.

I think I'll switch to cheese sandwiches until they find something wrong with that.

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I'm Hot for Doctor

by COMF in

it is time for my annual physical; besides which, the ending of a medium-term relationship signals the need for a fresh std check.

appointment with my primary care provider, dr. maria (her first name).

i smile and say, "which hair is that?

Dutchie

I believe I have some helpful advice to offer.

Wait a week or so and then call the doctor and make another appointment because you want to check out some pain in your knee (your arm, your neck, you choose). During her examination you openly flirt with her. At first make conversation about your ailment, then try to make a smooth transition into personal comments about the length of her hair or the shape of her eyes. Make it seem as if you're joking so if it blows up in your face you can always say that you were only fooling around. Make her laugh. It's surprising the amount of information you'll get when a woman starts to laugh.

Lastly tell her that you heard that her husband is a lawyer and if she would mind giving you the name and address of his office as you have some property to sell and you need an attorney's advice. She will either tell you that she is not married or tell you her husband's true profession. Either way you'll know what's up.

Let me know.

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Warning: Be Careful!

by zev in

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sometimes us 'net' savey dudes tend to get a little lax.. we all know and if we don't, we should, that there are people who read these boards who gather "information".. some of it is used against us to "turn us in", and other wise cause us harm.. i've been careful to not reveal my "true" identity hear, as it is a public forum, however, not careful enough.. my picture, and some desciptions i've used in writing my storiy, and describing my whereabouts, though never specific, have led, i believe, to someone learning where i live exactly, and when i would/wouldn't be home so that an act of crime could be commited against myself.. the time period i refer to is from this post:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=28606&site=3.

its taken this long for me to figure this out, who did it, and how.

Dutchie

Now that is frightening!