Posts by mimimimi

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Life and death message for X-JW's

by Junction-Guy in

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this is extremely important.

if you have not done so already, make sure that you contact all of your doctors and all of the hospitals you have used in the past and let them know that you will now take blood if needed.. .

this is a very true story.

mimimimi

I had a heart cath on July 27. One stent placed for a 90% blockage and two 50% blockages are being treated medically. Afterwards, I developed a large hematoma that broke loose and I was bleeding internally. My blood pressure plummetted. I was told this is an extremely rare thing to happen. Fortunately, I was already in ICU after the heart cath with a nitroglycerine drip because of chest pain and they were able to help me. One of the nurses put a red band with some numbers around my wrist and said that was in case I needed a blood transfusion. Fortunately, I had already had this hospital change my records several months ago to state that I was a "Christian", not a J-dub. When the lady in registration at that time questioned me about changing it and actually said "what about blood transfusions", I told her I no longer believed that way. Obviously, this hospital did get my information changed and I am so glad they did. I did not have to have a blood transfusion, but there would have been no hesitation in giving me one if it had been necessary. I also at that time changed my secondary contact information from the witness relatives it had been previously to my non-witness sons.

But I do have other hospitals I have gone to in the past that I need to change that information for, particularly now that I am on aspirin and Plavix. If I had an emergency, I would not want to be taken to one of those hospitals and they have on record that I am a J-dub and think I would refuse blood. I'm glad this came up because it makes me realize I have more work to do to get this information changed.

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my mothers conversation with elders

by DaCheech in

my mom learned the truth 40+ years ago from my uncles and some people in europe.

she has been going regularly since 1978 or so.. lately she's been going to some meetings only due to health.. yesterday at noon she got a visit from the p.o.

and he made a "pastoral visit".

mimimimi

"Most JW's do not have a deep understanding of their own doctrines and be able to explain them to someone else."

Actually, there were many things I could explain and did understand their reasoning, though I now do not agree with them. It was the only thing I had every known, after all. But there were things that went right over my head that I think they deliberately intend to go people's heads, such as that Jesus is not the Mediator for everyone, but only for the 144,000. There were also changes that I found out about in the last year being on JWD and reading Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom that went over my head before because there would just be a small blurb somewhere about them, obviously not expounded on so as to not raise questions or doubts in people.

That elder must have been lazy and did not understand their new twist to the generation and did not want to look it up.

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My Brother Died in a Car Wreck Last Night

by WLG in

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i just found out about an hour ago.

he wasn't even old enough to drink yet.. to make it even sh*ttier, he had called me a few weeks ago and asked if he could come out here with me but i couldn't do it at the time.

so of course the first thing that comes to mind is if i had done something different it wouldn't have happened.. he was going through the sh*t as i call it, when witnesses go off the deep end and get into everything in the world to stop hurting and they don't even know what is wrong.

mimimimi

I am so sorry. Don't beat yourself up over this. It is not your fault. I agree with what Mouthy said. I think there is a place beyond and he is there now, in no pain. If you can, take comfort in that thought.

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How Did you Feel Being Raised as a Jehovah's Witness?

by flipper in

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quite a thought, huh?

i was raised from birth as my family was in it 7 years before i was born ( 1952).

i remember wanting to go out for school sports in high school as my p.e.

mimimimi

"Without a word, she left.... a few weeks later, I get a letter saying I was DF'd. That week, we all had a huge keg party and burned the letter in celebration... I was finally free, since no one can now bother me."

You really struck a chord with me there. Sounds like some of my reactions to the sh...., uh, garbage dished out by my Holy J-dub mother and the elders.

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How Did you Feel Being Raised as a Jehovah's Witness?

by flipper in

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quite a thought, huh?

i was raised from birth as my family was in it 7 years before i was born ( 1952).

i remember wanting to go out for school sports in high school as my p.e.

mimimimi

Yes, quite wistful, just like you. And sad over the missed opportunities. I always felt so different from everyone else at school. I wanted to go to college really, really bad, and of course could not. One of the guidance counselors talked to me about college and I had to tell her that my religion frowned on higher education. I was inducted into the National Honor Society, but my mother had to look long and hard to make sure there was nothing wrong with a J-Dub being in the National Honor Society before she would permit it. I remember being scared to death that she would not let me.

In high school, I took mostly classes that would help me get an office job, though I really wanted to take the college prep classes instead. But I knew where my future lie and there was no fighting it. My senior year, I was in Office Occupations, so I actually worked in an office half a day, which I really enjoyed. There was a dinner my work had that I was invited to and I really wanted to go. But ...........it was on a meeting night and my righteous mother would not allow me to miss the meeting for the dinner. I hated that. My boss got corsages for all the Office Occupations girls working for her to wear to the dinner and she got me one, too, even though she knew I could not go.

I was put in a college prep English class my senior year, which I was very proud of. Not many kids were accepted into that class and it was really an honor. I was getting all kinds of literature mailed to me from different colleges. I would keep all of it and just pore over it. Later on when I lived on my own and had left the "troof", I did go to night school at the local community college, but I was never able to finish. I worked full-time and then became an unwed mother and just felt I had too many responsibilities to continue. In later years, after I was married, I did attend a class here and there to further what I wanted to do career-wise, but never actually got a degree. I always felt like I really missed out. I have thought that once I retire, I may go back to school then.

I was born in 1952 also. My father was not a witness, but my mother definitely wore the pants in the family and made the decisions, and always based those decisions on her religion, which she shoved down our throats. Family Bible studies were like a punishment, and of course, we had to read the daily "hex" every day as a family. She never knew I referred to it as that or I would have been in lots of trouble. I still laugh about the daily "hex".

But life does go on. I wish things had been different back then, but overall my life has been good. At least my kids have had the opportunities that I did not.

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Well, I'va made it through Friday.....

by still_in74 in

so i have the friday of the district assembly behind me.

i have learned;.

i need to cancel my cable so i can study more and read the bible more and have less temptation to buy "new toys"i need to sell my house and buy an ol' fixer upper so my wife can stop working and pioneeri need to sell all my "toys" and my cari need to trust the fds implicitly because jehovah does.i need to pray more, study more, preach more, go to more meetings, etc.

mimimimi

"I've seen some of the fixer uppers that a couple of JWs have. They never fixed them up! Can't cuz wife didn't work and pioneered full time" Well, that's the whole point, didn't you know? You are not supposed to fix them up because that would take time away from Jehovah.

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Hello.

by emilyblue in

i posted here a couple of months ago, or less.

my home computer crashed and they cracked down on messageboard sites at my work, so the work laptop was out.

plus, i just felt emotionally burned out and just didn't want to think about it anymore.

mimimimi

Emily,

There are so many things wrong with this picture that I don't even know where to start. So I am not going to. I am just going to say that you need to run in the opposite direction as fast as you can, and while you are running, stop off somewhere for counseling to find out why you would be attracted to someone who would treat you so badly. And don't get involved with anyone else until you have learned the answer to that question and can make a better decision on the man in your life. You deserve much better than this.

This guy would be a poor choice even if he was not a JW. He is sick on so many levels.

Mimi

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An Assembly "Experience"-and the rest of the story

by CaptainSchmideo in

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a brother was on the program for the saturday afternoon session as one of those "life experiences" interviews.

tells the tale about how he left a lucrative, well paying position to "help where the need was greater.

" moved from a major metropolitan area to a congregation in the rurals, was told by managers that the job he was going to was "a dead end".

mimimimi

Some years ago, I was asked to be on a part at the circuit assembly promoting the pioneer assist program. Of course, I was the weak publisher who needed to be assisted. When we went to learn and practice the part, I realized right away that it was being presented in a salesman-like way, very manipulative. The pioneer who assisted me just didn't get it. She had her own things she wanted to say and the brother told her no, this is what you are going to say. I could really recognize the salesmanship because I had read books about salesmanship that my husband had. This was a real eye-opener for me, but at the time I felt the ends justified the means. From that time on, I could really recognize this in the KH meetings. It finally just got disgusting to me. I think the clincher was a district convention where they talked to a little kid about how he had the opportunity to come home from school and play inappropriate video games while no one else was in the house and because of his loyalty to Jehovah, he did not. He used the expression "It was calling my name" and everyone in the convention hall laughed at how cute he was, but to me it was not cute. It was contrived and manipulative.

Funny thing about that pioneer sister who was on the part promoting the pioneer assist program with me. She did not like me and the things she wanted to say in this part made that clear. She actually did get some of them in during the assembly part. She said something like you have to do what Jehovah wants even if you don't like it. But she said enough of what she was told that it was a sales part.

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What's the latest WTS position on surgical birth control?

by Gregor in

you know, vasectomies (require masturbation), tubal ligations, are these a "matter of conscience" (but you better do what we suggest)?

mimimimi

There was a question from the readers within the last four to five years that said it was no longer a conscience decision. It used the scripture in Psalms about children being a gift from Jehovah and said that sterilization was no longer allowed, but that anyone who had it done prior to this understanding (new light - gag, gag) should not be punished for it.

I know of other witnesses besides myself who had a problem with this edict and felt it was way out of line. I was pretty vocal about it to some people and found there were many who agreed with me that it was no one's business but the people involved.

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Apostate?

by PEC in

is it possible to be apostate without being baptized?.

philip.

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mimimimi

I understood that an apostate in the eyes of the J-dubs is someone who was a baptized, card-carrying J-Dub who now no longer believes their teachings. My sister said that the Revelation book says that they must also be preaching or talking against the J-dubs to be an apostate.

My nephew decided in his teens that he did not want to go to the KH any more and was never baptized. He got involved for a while with the Wiccan group his father was part of, but eventually left that also. He is 22 years old now and has a wife and 2 year old son. He does not make enough money for them to live on their own (never went to college or technical school because my sister discouraged any of her kids from getting higher education due to the WT dictates), so they live in my sister's house. The elders in her congregation told her that my nephew is an apostate and that she needed to make him and his family move out. What the F....???? ............and do what? live in the street with a 2 year old child. I told my sister he does not meet the definition of an apostate and she agrees with that.

It amazes me that I stayed with the idiocy as long as I did when I look at all the unkind, unloving things they either do or try to perpetrate on other people.