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Question: Demons

by ladybug25 in

growing up, i remember hearing stories from my own parents and others in the congregation about experiences with demons.

sister x wore a t-shirt that she purchased at a second hand store and the demons attached themselves to the shirt and gave her problems.

certain movies and/or cds would give a family problems.

By_Blood_Immortal

unfortunately for all of you, you know nothing of demons. I have BEEN to Haiti. I've seen it first hand.

Shadrach is one of the most respected missionaries in Haiti. He has lead countless people out of their Satan worshipping. Alright, stop the jaguar story, you are obviously missing the point. What is more impossible to believe, that a guy followed two jaguars or that there is a God? Think about that for a moment. You are believing in something you have never seen. You have seen people do idiotic things. Would you have been happy if I said "o this guy was walking down the street and saw some animals talking in an abandoned hut". You would have all said "o ur lying. That isn't real. jaguars don't go into abandoned huts etc." Unfortunately, you have an unreliable source telling you a tale that seems to tall to believe. I have the pleasure of knowing whom I have believed and actually speaking with him. I trust him like I trust my mom. If he says it happened, I believe him. That doesn't necessarily make it true, no. But I still believe him. In short, obviously the story is not helping anyone so just drop it. I'm sick of being called a liar and having Shadrach accused of being drugged.

Constantine was a well made movie with a horrible plot. I mean Satan has a son named Mammon? Really, what I want to know is... how can someone that does not exsist have a son?:P No but really, over all it was a dumb movie with dumb a dumb religious thesis. I bought the movie for $4 and regret it.

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Question: Demons

by ladybug25 in

growing up, i remember hearing stories from my own parents and others in the congregation about experiences with demons.

sister x wore a t-shirt that she purchased at a second hand store and the demons attached themselves to the shirt and gave her problems.

certain movies and/or cds would give a family problems.

By_Blood_Immortal

If two animals were acting as abnormal as that, wouldn't you be slightly curious as well? and yes I am sure.

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Question: Demons

by ladybug25 in

growing up, i remember hearing stories from my own parents and others in the congregation about experiences with demons.

sister x wore a t-shirt that she purchased at a second hand store and the demons attached themselves to the shirt and gave her problems.

certain movies and/or cds would give a family problems.

By_Blood_Immortal

I talked to the man who saw it. His name was Shadrach. He was walking to a village and he noticed a couple of jaguars walking down the road together. He knew jaguars did not normally do this, that they were usually secluded animals so he followed. He saw a bunch of animals walk into a hut and hid behind a bush. Then he heard them start talking to one another. He heard them talking in Haitian and was so shocked, he immediately ran back.

does anyone know the story of Haiti? I will assume no.

http://www.conservativetruth.org/article.php?id=2164

Most text books, like the ones I have, state that Haiti was under French rule and Africans were brought over as slaves. This is all true. Then the slaves were lead out of their slavery by a man named François-Dominique Toussaint L'Ouverture. Long story short, they were all out of slavery after the revolution.

Alright, this is going to sound REALLY REALLY bad. Like one of those stories you see in the magazine in line at the grocery, "Jonah's Bones Found Inside of a Whale." But this is what really happened.

The Haitians had such a hard time in slavery they prayed to SATAN (THE DEVIL, LUCIFER, or whatever you want to call him) to free them from slavery. Well, needless to say, Satan is going to take all the free souls he can get so he freed them. The promised to worship him and no other for 200 years. This is the only religion the Haitians have so they continue in it. Their leading religious men are voodoo witch doctors. I am not positive about this next statement, but I think they are possessed by demons. but I know for certain that they are given powers by Satan.

My friend was in Haiti and he and some missionaries were driving around in a village. There were Haitians all over burning fires. Then a voodoo witch doctor came up and put a curse on one of the members. The person immediatly got sick and broke out in fever. The next day one of the veteran missionaries came and told the witch to take the curse off. She refused pledging her allegiance to Satan. The missionary cut off her head with a machete and the missionary on which the curse was placed was healed.

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Where in the Bible does it say man has free will?

by lovelylil in

i was doing some research on another topic and this scripural point kept coming up - jesus said "no one comes to me unless the father who sent me draws him" this word draw means to "entice" or "attract".

in light of this statement, does this mean we actually do not have free will to decide to serve christ?

for it says we cannot do so unless drawn by god.

By_Blood_Immortal

first of all God does not "predict". Predict means to make an educated guess. God does not guess he knows. Second, nonody said anything about God judging unborn babies. But for the sake of argument. Seeing as how God knows omniscient, assuming you even believe in God because, quite frankly, I have no idea what you believe, He knows EVERYTHING. He is not confined to what has happened and what will happen, He knows what could have happened, and what would have happened had somebody made a different choice. For example, had that mother not gotten an abortion this baby would have... God knows what they would have done had they been given an opportunity.

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Where in the Bible does it say man has free will?

by lovelylil in

i was doing some research on another topic and this scripural point kept coming up - jesus said "no one comes to me unless the father who sent me draws him" this word draw means to "entice" or "attract".

in light of this statement, does this mean we actually do not have free will to decide to serve christ?

for it says we cannot do so unless drawn by god.

By_Blood_Immortal

just to let you know, I believe in predestination. I was just telling you that your point was invalid.

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Question: Demons

by ladybug25 in

growing up, i remember hearing stories from my own parents and others in the congregation about experiences with demons.

sister x wore a t-shirt that she purchased at a second hand store and the demons attached themselves to the shirt and gave her problems.

certain movies and/or cds would give a family problems.

By_Blood_Immortal

Let's go without the Bible. There are still people who have seen demon possession. How wlse would you explain the fact that jaguars, birds, and panthers went into an abandoned hut in Haiti and started speaking to one another in HUMAN language?

As for this being metaphorical, would you care to explain for what you think this is a metaphor? I do not beleive this is a metaphor because how can a demon entering into pigs be a metaphor? seemns pretty literal to me.

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Where in the Bible does it say man has free will?

by lovelylil in

i was doing some research on another topic and this scripural point kept coming up - jesus said "no one comes to me unless the father who sent me draws him" this word draw means to "entice" or "attract".

in light of this statement, does this mean we actually do not have free will to decide to serve christ?

for it says we cannot do so unless drawn by god.

By_Blood_Immortal

This is not true. God has knowledge of what is going to happen, does not mean he causes it. that is part of the arguement of "Predestination vs. Freewill".

Both sides recgonize that one way or the other, God knows what is going to happen. Free will because of foreknowledge, him knowing but not causing, and Predestination because God caused all those things to happen.

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Who is Jesus? Is he God?

by BelieverInJesus in

i live in memphis.

months ago, i had some jw's come by and talk with me.

i'm a believer in the holy bible.

By_Blood_Immortal

Does this mean that Jesus was "God" as in Jehovah? God is often used in a personal way, as a quazi proper name. Here it is not used that way, but rather it refers to a position that Jesus held over Thomas. Jesus was "god" to Thomas, but this does not make him God as in the Almighty. There is a necessary distinction that must be draw, for the word QEOS (god) carries with it different senses.

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Yes I do mean that Jesus was "God" as in Jehovah. A well formed point, but if this were the case, the word "God" would be lower case, which it clearly is not.

----------------------------- Since Jesus was given the authority to resurrect the dead. The spirit is the life force, for force that animates the body. For Jesus to resurrect one it is necessary for him to return that life force to the person, and so Stephen trusts him with it.

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I do believe that the prophet Elisha resurrected a boy from the dead, should we commit our spirits to him? He was obviously given the authority to resurrect the dead.

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Who is Jesus? Is he God?

by BelieverInJesus in

i live in memphis.

months ago, i had some jw's come by and talk with me.

i'm a believer in the holy bible.

By_Blood_Immortal

Let us go on the assumption that everyone reading this agrees that the NWT is truth, though I know for a fact that everyone will NOT believe this. Whether you do or do not, that is the translation I am using. Go look it up in NLV or KJV or NIV whatever you want, it will be the same. The Bible goes much deeper than choice of words, even though that is a large part of it.

First, Jesus exsisted. There is documentatioin BESIDES the Bible. "The Book of Josephus" mentions Jesus in Antiquities, Book 18, chapter 3, paragraph 3

“Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day; as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.”

Second, Jesus was God's son.

John 8: 28-29- When he got to the other side, into the country of the Gad·a·renes´, there met him two demon-possessed men coming out from among the memorial tombs, unusually fierce, so that nobody had the courage to pass by on that road. And, look! they screamed, saying: “What have we to do with you, Son of God? Did you come here to torment us before the appointed time?” <Even his enemies form the heavenly realms acknowledged him as the Son of God? Did he decieve them too?

Third, Jesus was God.

John 20: 28- In answer Thomas said to him: “My Lord and my God!” <You mean he was decieved? Wasn't he one of the closest to Jesus?I'm relatively sure ALL of the disciples felt this way seeing as how Thomas was the only one that doubted, yet he ended up believing anyway.

Acts 7: 59- And they went on casting stones at Stephen as he made appeal and said: “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” <Since when have complete humans been able to recieve spirits?

If you think I'm wrong, or you decide that this is inconclusive, tell me why and/or which part.

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Question: Demons

by ladybug25 in

growing up, i remember hearing stories from my own parents and others in the congregation about experiences with demons.

sister x wore a t-shirt that she purchased at a second hand store and the demons attached themselves to the shirt and gave her problems.

certain movies and/or cds would give a family problems.

By_Blood_Immortal

I do not agree with the statement that demons are not real, that they are only in your head. Look at Matthew 9:32-34

Now when they were leaving, look! people brought him a dumb man possessed of a demon;and after the demon had been expelled the dumb man spoke. Well, the crowds felt amazement and said: “Never was anything like this seen in Israel.” But the Pharisees began to say: “It is by the ruler of the demons that he expels the demons.”

How can somebody else drive out something out that is in your head?

Another question, can demons be in mulitple minds, moving from one mind to the next? How do they do that? And I always though pigs were dumb, they must be pretty smart if the can make up demons in their own minds. Matthew 8:28-34

When he got to the other side, into the country of the Gad·a·renes´, there met him two demon-possessed men coming out from among the memorial tombs, unusually fierce, so that nobody had the courage to pass by on that road.And, look! they screamed, saying: “What have we to do with you, Son of God? Did you come here to torment us before the appointed time?”But a long way off from them a herd of many swine was at pasture.So the demons began to entreat him, saying: “If you expel us, send us forth into the herd of swine.”Accordingly he said to them: “Go!” They came out and went off into the swine; and, look! the entire herd rushed over the precipice into the sea and died in the waters.

I'm just curious how someone who does not believe in demons would explain these accounts...

Also I do know of an atheist who, whether in his head or not, is possessed by a demon. He is a neighbor of my friends in Africa.

By_Blood_Immortal

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