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After reading many topics.. I'm confused. Is this a JW forum or an ANTI-JW?

by MichaelM in

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i'm studying with a jehovah's witness and it makes quite a bit of sense but i've been reading many topics on here and it seems that i can find every christian denomination and every religion except jehovahs witnesses.

do any jw's actually browse here?

maybe i'm just getting unlucky and picking the wrong topics where everyones discussing about how they used to be jw's.

TheCoolerKing

My advice to you MichaelM is to stay on this site and keep reading...

TCK

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Did this ever happen to you???

by TheCoolerKing in

this topic came up the other night when i was chatting with nvrgnbk.

as some of you may know, i was born and raised as a jw.

i was actually a 3rd generation jw.

TheCoolerKing

I hated it when the brothers would use the stage as their personal platform for belittleing those in the congregation they didn't agree with . So many petty things that should have been handled in private were laundered in public.

I agree with that statement Troubled Mind. That P.O. at my congregation had a bad habit of belittling others within the congregation, even other elders there were targeted by him.

I remembered that one of the other elders at the congregation had a wedding reception for his daughter on a Sat. evening. It was actually a nice wedding and everyone had a good time at the reception. Well that Sunday after the Watchtower Study, the P.O. said, "Did everyone enjoy that music at the wedding reception yesterday? Seems to me that alot of you did. I saw sisters clapping their hands to "the beat" and some brothers were doing "worldy" type dancing. Now friends, this is NOT the type of music that we as Christians should be listening too!"

Guess the P.O. would have preferred that the congregation members dance to the "Kingdom Melodies" tunes? I think nvrgnbk made a good point earlier...that P.O. was a real a$$hole!!!

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Did this ever happen to you???

by TheCoolerKing in

this topic came up the other night when i was chatting with nvrgnbk.

as some of you may know, i was born and raised as a jw.

i was actually a 3rd generation jw.

TheCoolerKing

These were the qualifications back when you were baptized:

*** km 3/98 p. 4 par. 12 Will We Do It Again?—Another Call for Auxiliary Pioneers ***To qualify for auxiliary pioneering, one must be baptized, be of good moral standing, and be in a position to devote 60 hours to the ministry during the month.
*** km 2/97 p. 4 par. 9 Wanted—100,000 Auxiliary Pioneers ***A sister who was baptized at the age of 70 immediately began auxiliary pioneering on a continuous basis.

Thanks for the info Blondie!

Over the years, I had also known of several other witnesses that began auxiliary pioneering soon after they were baptized. This brings me to another point. Could it be that the elders at that congregation and especially the P.O. didn't understand the difference between auxiliary pioneer and regular pioneer! In the case of a regular pioneer, yes, I would have had to wait for 6 months, after being baptized to qualify. But the only qualifications that I ever heard for an auxiliary pioneer was that the individual had to be baptized. And if the elders didn't feel that I was qualified or of good moral standing, then why did they let me pass the baptism test???

It looks like the P.O. didn't understand the WTS rules. Guess he was the one that wasn't qualified...to be an elder!!!

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Did this ever happen to you???

by TheCoolerKing in

this topic came up the other night when i was chatting with nvrgnbk.

as some of you may know, i was born and raised as a jw.

i was actually a 3rd generation jw.

TheCoolerKing

This guy did you an enormous favor - he got you thinking...

That's right Shawn! I actually started thinking for myself, something I had never learned as a JW!!!

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What Actually Made You Leave The "Truth"?

by minimus in

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for me it was a combination of things over a long period of time.

being raised as a witness, you do things by rote.

but when you see sooooooooo many watchtower inconsistencies, mistreatment of the "brothers", elder abuse, and simple lack of love, it begins to make you start seriously thinking.

TheCoolerKing

Great topic minimus!

For me it began by a simple "lack of love" and abundant arrogance by the elders!!!

I just posted what caused my beginning of the end as a JW: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/135198/1.ashx

TCK

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Did this ever happen to you???

by TheCoolerKing in

this topic came up the other night when i was chatting with nvrgnbk.

as some of you may know, i was born and raised as a jw.

i was actually a 3rd generation jw.

TheCoolerKing

Maybe the P.O. was just an a$$hole. Plain and simple. I've known a few in the organization.

Only a few NVR??!!

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Did this ever happen to you???

by TheCoolerKing in

this topic came up the other night when i was chatting with nvrgnbk.

as some of you may know, i was born and raised as a jw.

i was actually a 3rd generation jw.

TheCoolerKing

Actually if this was the beginning of the end for you, as far as being a JW, they actually did you a favor - in the long run.

Yup, that's very true Gopher! And that's exactly how I feel now.

The irony of this whole event was that I still managed to work 61 hrs. in Field Service during that month of August! Which was ONE hour more than would have been required had I actually been given the lousy pioneer slip! Like many teenagers, I was stubborn and wanted to prove to everyone that I could do it if given the chance.

Looking back now, I could have used that time so much more wisely!!!

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Did this ever happen to you???

by TheCoolerKing in

this topic came up the other night when i was chatting with nvrgnbk.

as some of you may know, i was born and raised as a jw.

i was actually a 3rd generation jw.

TheCoolerKing

Did the Service Overseer have a son who wasn't as 'spiritual' as you by any chance?

Actually neither the Service Overseer or the Presiding Overseer had any kids. Like many congregations, there were few young people in attendance. I always had the feeling that the P.O. just didn't like me for whatever reason. Maybe he considered me "too young". I have always suspected too that it was a case of my having a "worldly" father. Only my mother was ever an active witness.

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Did this ever happen to you???

by TheCoolerKing in

this topic came up the other night when i was chatting with nvrgnbk.

as some of you may know, i was born and raised as a jw.

i was actually a 3rd generation jw.

TheCoolerKing

This topic came up the other night when I was chatting with nvrgnbk. As some of you may know, I was born and raised as a JW. I was actually a 3rd generation JW. I became a publisher at 12 and also started giving talks for the Theocratic Ministry School at the same time. Eventually I got baptized when I was 17. An experience that I had shortly after I got baptized is what I want to discuss or vent about now.

My family and I moved and switched Kingdom Halls about 6 months before I was baptized. I met all the elders at the new congregation, I "passed" my baptism questions and I was baptized on June 19, 1982. One of my first goals after baptism was to auxiliary pioneer. I wanted to do this during that summer month of August. So I approached the Service Overseer about a pioneer slip for August in late June. To my shock and utter amazement, the elder told me that I did not qualify for one! So I approached the Presiding Overseer and told him that I had desired to auxiliary pioneer, but I was again told that I didn’t qualify. I told the P.O. that yes, I had only recently gotten baptized, but I had also been a publisher since age 12! The P.O. looked at me and said that the Service Overseer was correct, they would NOT give me a pioneer slip because I didn’t qualify! I walked away stunned. I didn't understand. I had always put in alot of hours as a publisher and I had never missed a month of turning in a Field Service slip. This discussion happened on a Sunday afternoon.

That upcoming Thursday, during the Service Meeting, the P.O. actually made a comment about me from the stage!!! He didn’t mention me by name, but said the following, “Some people think that just because they go out and get baptized, that they can also go out and become a pioneer. Well, we need QUALITY, not QUANTITY!!!”

Those are the exact words that he used. Considering that I was the only one that had been recently baptized, I was quite certain that the whole congregation knew that he was referring to me when he made that statement. I remember being genuinely hurt at the time. And that was also the first time that I began to question the so-called "love" within the JW congregation. Later on, when I began to question other things about The Org., I remembered that experience. Only this time it was with anger, not hurt. Just who in the hell did that arrogant S.O.B. think he was to question my integrity? And what gave him the right to use me as a negative example? As a matter of fact, I had been a publisher longer than he had been an elder!!! That was definitely the beginning of the end for me as a JW.

Did anyone else have an experience similiar to this? Where an elder talked about you from the stage or used you as a negative example among the congregation?

TCK

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BEER THREAD

by nvrgnbk in

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i believe the moment's right to discuss a very serious matter............................................................beer.

what do you like?

let's edumicate one another!

TheCoolerKing

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Thanks for the link NVR! This sounds like a winner. I think I'll pick up a case of this Porter for the weekend!!!