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  2nd Corinthians 3

  by Butters in

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  i want to get a solid opinion on this chapter from everyone.

  2nd corinithians 3 is a major set back for those who believe in keeping the 10 commandments.

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  The Sabbath was Friday-Saturday, not Sunday. Sunday was the kuriaké hémera "Lord's Day" (cf. Didache 14:1, Revelation 1:10, Gospel of Peter 12:1), e.g. the day Jesus rose from the dead, on which Christians assembled for the eucharist. See the epistle of Barnabas 15:8-9 for a likening of Sunday to the "eighth day" of creation week (which is created to replace the sabbath which is no longer "acceptable"), which the author explains "is why we spend the eighth day in celebration, the day on which Jesus both arose from the dead and, after appearing again, ascended into heaven".

  I disagree with this. The Messiah said that he was Lord of the Sabbath day in Mark 2:28. He said the Sabbath was made for MAN, (not Israel) and that we are to keep it holy and DO GOOD on it. Where did Sunday come into play? It seems that the later Church fathers made it up, all part of their Babylonian Trinity and other false dogma. The law was transferred (Hebrews 7:12) to Messiah along with the priesthood. Hebrews 4 teaches us that God rested on the Sabbath day, (7th day) and we are to imitate God, the author said (whoever wrote Hebrews, we don't know, it was definitely NOT PAUL). The epistle of Barnabas is not scripture. That writing was assembled in the latter part of the 7th century of our era.

  The "Lord's Day" is a future reference to things about to occur according to revelation. It is not a reference to Sunday, which is not the lord's day. The Shabbat is the Lord's day of rest. He also was not resurrected on a Sunday. That makes no sense at all in accord with Jonah's "3 days and 3 nights". 3 days and 3 nights from Friday was Monday at the earliest, but since Messiah was hung on a High Sabbath, (the day of preparation being before which would be Wednesday) then he rose late on the Sabbath day just as Matthew 28:1 says....

  Sorry... You are wrong on this Leolaia. Too much pagan Greek Church stuff and Ex-Watchtower stuff lingering around I think. Try Messianic Judaism out for a change. The real Messiah by the way is Yoseph's son. Not a spirit baby according to some pagan neo-platonism. Isaiah 7:14 doesn't belong in Matthew. The real true Hebrew Matthew doesn't have that verse. Isaiah 7:14 is fulfilled in Isaiah 8:3 anyway.... A sign to Ahaz makes no sense 400+ years before the Messiah is born... It's biblical ballyhoo.
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  Subliminal Messages

  by Butters in

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  2. friends

  hey guys, uh, well, i was kinda hoping maybe you guys could share some of those scans of the old wt articles that have all the subliminal messages i heard so much about.

  i have one download that shows the pentagram in the chair and so on, but is this real?

  did they really try and deceive people?

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  Hey Guys, uh, well, I was kinda hoping maybe you guys could share some of those scans of the old WT articles that have all the subliminal messages I heard so much about. I have one download that shows the pentagram in the chair and so on, but is this real? Did they really try and deceive people? (Bad joke)... Seriously, if anyone doesn't mind posting these heresies, I would like to see them and maybe hear what it was supposed to mean.

  Thanks Guys,

  BUTTERS
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  Cardinals vs. Tigers in World Series

  by Jourles in

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  so who do you think will win the ws?.

  jourles, of the rabid cardinal nation since '85 class.

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  I don't believe in jinxing. The Mets are going to win the game 7 to 3. I finally went out and bought a crystal ball.
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  Cardinals vs. Tigers in World Series

  by Jourles in

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  so who do you think will win the ws?.

  jourles, of the rabid cardinal nation since '85 class.

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  TONIGHT'S PREDICTION AT SHEA STADIUM: METS 7 - CARDINALS 3 WRITTEN AT 10:04 AM...
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  JW's and Girlscout cookies

  by oppgirl63 in

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  2. friends

  my jw roommate and i were watching boston legal the other night and one case was about someone being fired for their religious beliefs.

  when one of the lawyers was talking to the jury, he mentioned many religions and the odd, quirky things about them.

  he did mention that if you were a jehovah's witness you couldn't buy girl scout cookies.

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  This is absolutely insane. You mean that all that time, that facist organization was actually promoting people to rip off the girl scouts? How wude.
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  Wisdom and folly

  by Narkissos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been thinking about this topic for some time.. wisdom and folly.

  sages and prophets in the bible texts and the wider ancient near eastern world.

  apollo and dionysos in greek tradition.

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  I teamed up because they looked neat and had plenty of neat looking magazines. I started reading the neat magazines and agreed with many wondeful issues like "The Beautiful Moth" and other wonderful Awake! articles. The Watchtower was like being back in school again, I got to raise my hand and answer questions. They even had a guy with a microphone to bring to me. It was usually the black people that got that part. The elders were wonderful white men with lots of money. I liked that too. But then, one day... I started doing something else. I started actually reading the bible. I found out that the bible actually teaches something totally different from what they were claiming. I was beginning to get a little upset. So I started asking some questions. Next thing you know, I was being looked at funny. "He's doubting Jehovah's authority" and such. Finally, I snapped. I just up and left. Without a trace. And I lived happily ever after...
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  Cardinals vs. Tigers in World Series

  by Jourles in

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  so who do you think will win the ws?.

  jourles, of the rabid cardinal nation since '85 class.

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  PS- if you are ever on the starship Enterprise, don't ever let the Captain show you what he calls "his log".... ("Captain's log star date 12345...) etc...
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  Cardinals vs. Tigers in World Series

  by Jourles in

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  so who do you think will win the ws?.

  jourles, of the rabid cardinal nation since '85 class.

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  Sorry Jourles but your old Witchtower skills are not prohesying correctly here at JWD. It appears as if the Mets are now up 4 zip. Care to revise your post? Luckily you can change the prophecy here and everyone is understanding since we can also blurt out the occasional "oh shit" and not worry about some creepy elder ready to stick a foghorn up our ass and give us some of his "disicipline"... Don't ever play ball with the tough elders... Sure, they'll play ball for a while, but when your back is turned, they shove the bat right up your ass. I THINK THE METS WILL WIN BOTH THESE GAMES, and then at least 2 in the series.... I am also sure that "the end is coming"... at least that is what my girlfriend likes to think...Either way... GO TIGERS!!!!
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  Exciting New Use For Tract

  by Asheron in

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  2. friends

  i came home from work yesterday and lo and behold, a faithfull servant of jah had dropped off the new tract!!

  i devoured the exciting words of death and destruction.

  i especially liked the second picture of the nasty harlot getting eaten.

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  I heat up...I can't cool down...You've got me going...Round and round....Round and round...round it goes...
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  Are you really free from the Watchtower?

  by yaddayadda in

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  2. friends

  the thread on how long it took you to get out of the organisation made me think.

  i honestly think anyone that spends more than half an hour per day on anti-jw sites like this is, psychologically, not out of the organisation at all, despite their best protests.

  the watchtower clearly still fascinates them to the point of an obsessive, compulsive need to frequently post on this website and others.

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  I broke free from the WT about 10 years ago. However, that was about the same time the internet got fast and colorful. Since then I have been stuck online, and went from 6 foot 2 and 180 LBS to 250. Although I do about 20 pushups a day so I don't end up looking like Cartman.