Posts by Butters

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It's Governments, Religion, Capitalist and Allies who attack Jah's people!

by Bryan in

the watchtower teaches that the united nations and governments will turn on the witnesses after first destroying religion.. this is what they say in their booklet conspiracy against democracy, 1940, written by rutherford, page 48:.

"the leaders and rulers of this world, religions, political, commercial and their allies all unite in their opposition and persicution of those who bear testamony to the name of jehovah and his king.

when jehovah's witnesses make know publicly that it is the purpose of god, in the near future, at the battle of armageddon, to destroy all opposers of his kingdom, that message greatly disturbs and angers the dictators and their religious allies.

Butters

When the United Arab Emirates become officially the 10 king kingdom and fulfill their role as the Assyrian in prophecy, then the great tribulation will begin. Right now they are only a 7 king entity. But these sheeks that are in power over there now have the ability for global dominance, and to rebuild a physical Babylon again. People don't realize where the anti-Messiah will come from. It is not European and it is not America. It's an Arab nation. Everything in the bible has always played out over there from a literal Babylon. Nebuchadnezzar, Alexander, etc, all had a literal government in Babylon. There is no reason to believe otherwise today...

The true Harmagedon is over there too. That river is ironically becoming a fertile valley again too as we speak.

IT will be interesting to see how this pans out. May the Holy Ruach Kodesh guide us all.

Shalom and Agape,

Bruce

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About early christianity: Good link!

by Hellrider in

i found a good text online, about early christianity: .

http://www.muslimhope.com/bibleanswers/earlychurch.htm.

...the text has nothing to do with islam at all, but it is published on a web-page that tries to reach out to moslems...(never mind that, it`s not important).

Butters

Look, it doesn' t matter what people believe. IT's what the bible says. The bible plainly says that God is never tempted ever! Jesus is. The bible says that God never dies ever! If God died on the cross, the whole universe would collapse and existence end. God didn't die! Jesus died, and Jesus is Yoseph and Mary's son. He was fully human and not God. There is only one God, and that is the Father. (1 Cor 8:4,6)... Leolaia, Helenistic Judaism is wrong too! I don't care for any religions. They are all wrong. If you go by the bible alone, you don't get religions you get a book that never mentions the word "Trinity", doesn't teach a trinity, and has a Messiah that doesn' teach a trinity. Those of us who rely on the bible for information and not men or doctrines of men, know this is quite easy. Post conciliar creeds are heresy to a book that doesn't teach the idea. Jesus quoted the SHEMA (Mark 12:28,29) of Dueteronomy 6:4 very well. Please explain why Jesus himself denies what everyone else forces him to think and believe. If Jesus tells me that God is ONE, I believe him and not the trinitarian psychobabble or the WT's bable about an archangel becoming a man either...

The real simple fact is understanding the fact that Yahweh's set apart mindset (holy spirit) came upon Miriyam, and inhabited her. She conceived in her mind that she would bare the Messiah in her womb, and came together with her husband and had their child, after the angel told Yoseph not to fear what was going on inside her mind, don't put her away, take her to be your wife, etc... the seed of David... This was David's son, a human baby boy that was nourished on the Hebrew bible, and learned the Torah, grew up and received the Holy spirit himself when John baptized him (Mt 3:16-) and taught about the coming Kingdom in Jerusalem, then he was tortured on a staurous, and died, raised back to HUMAN life, and is still a human today (1st Timothy 2:5, Luke 24:37-42)...

I would like to hear how you Trinitarians explain Revelation 1:1 also... Why does God need a revelation from God?

That's what the bible says.

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About early christianity: Good link!

by Hellrider in

i found a good text online, about early christianity: .

http://www.muslimhope.com/bibleanswers/earlychurch.htm.

...the text has nothing to do with islam at all, but it is published on a web-page that tries to reach out to moslems...(never mind that, it`s not important).

Butters

You cannot put three billiard balls on one spot.

Butters

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About early christianity: Good link!

by Hellrider in

i found a good text online, about early christianity: .

http://www.muslimhope.com/bibleanswers/earlychurch.htm.

...the text has nothing to do with islam at all, but it is published on a web-page that tries to reach out to moslems...(never mind that, it`s not important).

Butters

This is a horrible link. It promotes the Trinity. Tertullian didn't adress nearly half the scriptures that prove God cannot be tempted and that Jesus was tempted. Hebrews 4:15 makes it quite clear that Messiah (the human) was David's son, a man tempted like us. The Platonism that Tertullian believed came LATER. All of the early "church fathers" were influenced by pagan Greek philosophy. Specifically Xenocrates.

I am sad to say that this is a big misleading article. For some real truth, try:

http://www.creatorgod.org

http://www.godfellas.org

Butters

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Would You/Do You Remain As A JW "Technically"???

by minimus in

jw
friends

technically, since i am not df'd or dissasociated, i am considered by witnesses as an inactive jw.

i do not actively look to get df'd as i have family that are witnesses.

if i were ever df'd, then i'd deal.

Butters

You can check out any time you like... But you can never leave...LOL!

alt

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Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Changes

by Simon in

jw
friends

(the david bowie song in case you're wondering).

there seems to be a lot of talk and speculation about the changes that are coming at the next district conventions.

there have certainly been quite a few articles and talks (esp.

Butters

Wow. This thread was started 6 years ago.

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"Bible Teach" Book Question

by JW_Researcher in

was the "what does the bible really teach?

" book released in hardcover in addition to soft cover or was it released in soft cover only?.

please and thank you..

Butters

Check the original copyright date. Is that a book that was published before 96'? I know they stopped the hardcovers around that time I think. If it is a book that has been around a while, then it was at one time in hard cover. In 95' they came out with the "Knowledge that leads to everlasting life" which was temporarily available in both. I have two nice little red hardcovers. Oh the beautiful books and wonderful golden letters on the covers. Always judge a book by it' s cover. LOL the audacity!

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Why will the UN ignore the JWs during its persecution of false religion?

by Qcmbr in

just another thought which i may have misunderstood but doesn't add up for me is how do the jws expect the un to destroy all false religions without touching the jws - or are they included in the destruction of false religion?

Butters

They must be included. Otherwise Satan isn't deceiving the entire inhabited earth now is he? Except for Jehovah's Witnesses, though, who are not decieved by Satan. They are decieved by Jehovah on consectutive occasions.

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Who is Jesus? Is he God?

by BelieverInJesus in

i live in memphis.

months ago, i had some jw's come by and talk with me.

i'm a believer in the holy bible.

Butters

Please check out this link....

http://www.godfellas.info

There is ample reason to believe that God didn' t die on a cross, and God cannot be tempted. Jesus was tempted, and Jesus died. That alone proves that Jesus is human, (David's son) and God is a spirit that alone dwells in unapproachable light. He is not a son of man. Jesus is... Yeshua actually, since "Jesus" was never his name...

Butters

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The JW turn out for service was down today

by headmath in

i went by my local kh at 10:30 saturday oct 21 and noted about 40 cars in the parking lot.

on wednesday (two days earlier) i counted 60 cars in the parking lot at 10:30 .

i was expecting a greater turn out on saturday but actually it was far less.

Butters

You must live in a major city without urban sprawl. Most Kingdom Halls only have on average about 50-60 dubs per cong nationwide, and only about 2/3 of them half vehicles. Field service probably cuts the number of cars in half from there, due to those who work and those who are disabled, or just plain don't give a hoot anymore.

Let me guess... Upstate New York somewhere? Rochester? Buffalo?