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  Theocratic Schedule Insert (KM)

  by Iamallcool in

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  i remember some years ago like around 2005 the kingdom ministry insert that talks about what theocratic schedule should be for the dubs.

  if you remember that, i would like to see it again.

  thank you!

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  A digital version of all KMs in 2005 can be accessed here. The May issue is on the pdf p.31
  
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  In the UK it is legal to abort a Down's Syndrome baby up until the moment of birth

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  2. current

  there was a recent legal challenge, brought about by a woman who herself has down's, which sought to overturn this sad state of affairs.. and a few days ago, a judge upheld the original law and denied her legal challenge.

  this is pretty sick, don't you think?.

  pro-abortion people love to ridicule religious people who claim that life begins at conception, so the obvious question is, when does life actually begin?.

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  Regardless of my own views on abortion, it may be worth considering just what the law in England, Wales and Scotland does say (the law is different in Northern Ireland). The Abortion Act of 1967 said that abortion was allowed at any stage of the pregnancy if two registered medical practitioners were of the opinion, formed in good faith,
  

  • that the continuance of the pregnancy would involve risk to the life of the pregnant woman, or of injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman or any existing children of her family, greater than if the pregnancy were terminated; or
  • that there is a substantial risk that if the child were born it would suffer from such physical or mental abnormalities as to be seriously handicapped.

  The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act of 1990 amended the first condition to say that in the case of injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman or her children an abortion would only be legal if the pregnancy had not exceeded its twenty-fourth week. However, this time limit does not apply if the pregnancy would cause grave permanent injury to the pregnant woman, or if it would involve risk to the life of the pregnant woman.

  The second condition, which includes Down's syndrome as being "seriously handicapped", was not amended. The judgment rendered in the recent case did not change the law but ruled that the Abortion Act was not unlawful, as reported by the BBC.
  
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  Those members who passed away

  by Gorb in

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  2. friends

  who of those passed away jwd/jwn members, do we think of??.

  oompah and the lady from australia, are there more??.

  g..

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  I wonder about Old Goat who became a Witness in 1948 and at one time taught history at university level. He had a good knowledge of the history of Jehovah's Witnesses but we haven't heard from him since August 2017. Perhaps Vienne's daughter (Annie) might know as he was in contact with both Schulz and de Vienne regarding their research on early Watchtower history.

  Another old-time contributor was larc (Carl Thornton), whose mother was Berta Peale's niece, and who provided a lot about Rutherford's entourage in the thread Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie and elsewhere, died in November 2005, as reported here.
  
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  LOTTERY+STRIPPER+BIBLE STUDY = a Jehovah’s Witness Sister!

  by Terry in

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  lottery+stripper+bible study = a jehovah’s witness sister!don’t most financially-strapped blue-collar people buy lottery tickets - what’s so special about that?vivian, mother of 4, a factory worker - it was her husband who played the pools and won £5.5 million pounds!viv and her husband lived in yorkshire and in the u.k. they call it playing the “ football pools.”they were the biggest winners in history (at the time) and the year was 1961.the first question winners are asked is: “what will you do with all that cash?”viv’s honest reply later became the title of her book (and later - a musical!

  ) “spend spend spend!”who doesn’t imagined winning such a sudden fortune would be the end of life’s problems?not so fast!four years after hitting the jackpot, her husband died at the wheel of his new jaguar, leaving an estate of only £42,000.

  i mean that is all that was remaining after a mad spending spree.

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  She died on 11 April 2015 at the age of 79, as reported by the BBC.
  
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  Jehovah Witnesses lost in Court. Disfellowshipped Sister Reinstated by Court Order?

  by pistolpete in

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  2. beliefs

  imagine the "faithful" jws who are now having to talk to this person by court order or face the consequences----legally.. exjws are spreading the news and now some exjws who have been disfellowshipped for years are starting to research to see if this is an option in their country.

  here are the articles, you need to translate in google.

  https://www.nrk.no/norge/gry-nygard-ble-ekskludert-fra-jehovas-vitner-_-vant-i-lagmannsretten-1.15570621.

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  Rolf Furuli, who was an elder in Norway for 57 years, considers this disfellowshipping to be a violation of Bible principles and has uploaded a study of the court case on his website. While I do not agree with all his conclusions, his study is quite helpful as it provides an English translation by a native Norwegian about what was said and what the courts decided. His study is in two parts and can be accessed here and here.
  
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  Religious groups in UK failing children over sex abuse, report says - BBC News

  by ballistic in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58420270.

  this item just featured on the bbc lunchtime news today as the headline story and the piece included a reporter who singled out jehovah's witnesses for discussion from the 30 organisations covered by the report.

  the news item then went on to feature an extensive interview ex elder and ex jehovah's witness writer lloyd evans..

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  This case has now been postponed until 4th November 2021.

  The papers in the case show that the elders had one meeting with the perpetrator on July 27, 2006 and also had a separate meeting with his wife about the same time. The case against the elders for not reporting the abuse is based on what they were told at this time, not on what subsequently happened in the next ten years which they did not know about.
  
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  What Do You Think?

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  do you think the tower is getting money from the government for encouraging people to get vaccinated?

  or is there just too much lemon in my tea?.

  https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2021/07/27/biden-harris-admin-provides-121-million-in-arp-funding-to-local-communities-for-covid-19-vaccines.htmlbiden-harris administration provides $121 million in american rescue plan funds to support local community-based efforts to increase covid-19 vaccinations in underserved communities.

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  I agree with BluesBrother that it would risk their credibility to accept money for encouraging people to get vaccinated. Neither the Watchtower Society nor its affiliates are included in the funding by HRSA in June or July 2021.
  
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  The Cross in Pompeii & Herculaneum in 79 AD

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. beliefs

  can someone please tell the wt janitor to turn the lights off when the last jw leaves the watchtower after learning that early christians used the cross as a christian logo of sorts?

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  In the book "Pompeii's Ashes: The Reception of the Cities Buried by Vesuvius" (Berlin 2015) by E. Moormann, he writes (p.239) :

  A 'cross' found on the wall above [the cupboard] was long thought to imply a Christian altar, but since publications by L. Falanga [La mensole di Boscoreale e la 'croce' di Ercolano, Sylva Mala (1986) 12-15] and R. de Kind ["Themis en Iusta voor vrouwe justitia", Hermeneus 62 (1990) 196-202] it has been generally accepted that only a simple cupboard was involved. The 'cross' is merely the impression left by a shelf.

  In other words, the indentation in the plaster simply served for the insertion of two interconnected wooden lathes to support a small plank. Such a wooden shelf has been found in the Villa Regina of Boscoreale. It is almost exactly the same shape as that of the impression in Herculaneum.
  

  

  Unfortunately, interpreting the cupboard as a shrine and the remains of the shelf as a cross are just wishful thinking.
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  Help needed - Did the GB receive Covid money?

  by iwasblind in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is not a political post regarding the vax jab, (let's not go there) but i personally know many who were disturbed by the gb pushing it in the update #7. .

  it is odd as they never really get involved and always do the stupid "conscious" thing whenever they don't want to take responsibility.. then i saw this article - https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/08/03/898753550/religious-groups-received-6-10-billion-in-covid-19-relief-funds-hope-for-more?t=1632597803079&fbclid=iwar0ly8k1fb3cdgknmmxs9aruz-wtex6sir9_uz2uxofkae4iyk7sm5r1ndu&t=1632598929611.

  there is a report with itemized churches and the amounts they were given.

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  The "more complete" list that Anony Mous provided above only includes companies who received loans over $150,000 at the moment. It does suggest that it will include loans under $150,000 in the future.

  The companies listed at the moment include two with the word "Watchtower", namely Watchtower Security, Inc and Watchtower LLC.

  Watchtower Security, Inc is a managed video surveillance company specializing in meeting the specific security needs for the multi-family housing industry. Watchtower LLC is part of the Computer Systems Design and Related Services Industry.

  Nothing to see here relating to the Watchtower Society or its affiliates at the moment. When the list includes loans under $150,000 then it may be worth looking at again.
  
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  Does anyone have a copy of the Jan 1st 1989 Watchtower I can buy

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i want to buy a copy not a copy of one but the actual copy of a 1989 jan 1st watchtower.

  let me know i would like to have one to show someone i am talking to about it.

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  A digital copy of the English magazine can be seen here. It is the entire January 1, 1989, issue of both the original Watchtower magazine and the bound volume.