Raymond Franz wrote (in Crisis of Conscience, 4th edition, p.45) that Thomas Sullivan "in his eighties, nearly blind and in poor health" would repeatedly sleep during the governing body sessions. He remained a member of the governing body until he died at the age of 86.
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Where is Tony?
by Athanasius inon february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
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Looking for old friends Widnes kingdom hall
by KennethMckie inmy father was a member of the widnes kingdom hall and we are trying to find his old friends who use to go to the kingdom hall in widnes.
his friends would have known him as ken mckie.
my father is now in a nursing home due to his health issues kenneth mckie had many friends in the widnes kingdom hall and lost there contact .
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Try the Kingdom Hall contact @ 07801 844789
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JW's in the Hot Seat in Czech Republic
by Sea Breeze inlooks like things are heating up in the czech republic over the horrifying practice of shunning children that ask the "wrong" questions.
kids now days have access to all of the watchtower's lies, manipulations, unnecessary deaths, flip flops, rejection of jesus as mediator etc, etc.
i predict this issue of shunning children will continue to threaten free government money that the wt receives.
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This video seems to date back to March 4. There was an article reporting on it in the Slovak online magazine tvnovin which is translated as follows :
Unique shots. At the meeting of Jehovah's Witnesses, they were also asked to talk about what they had denied for years.
They fear losing their family, but say they can no longer remain silent. We have been approached by several members of Jehovah's Witnesses who decided to leave the community years later. But they say it's not easy.
If they leave, they risk losing ties to their loved ones. The impending social isolation is likened by members to death.
The community of Jehovah's Witnesses denies the ban on contact with departed persons. However, the videos we have obtained say otherwise.
It's not easy
Three months ago, we were approached by a man who grew up in a family of Jehovah's Witnesses. He talked about banning transfusions, waiting for the end of the world, but especially about social isolation.
"It is very often emphasized and reminded that the outside world is under the influence of the devil. People who are not in that organization and do not have spiritual guidance can have a bad spiritual and moral influence," he told us.
The young man claimed that he would like to leave the community, but it is not easy.
"Because it would put my parents under a lot of psychological pressure. They have such a doctrine that excommunicated members are sort of isolated from that community. No one in that community is allowed to contact, talk, or basically greet excluded witnesses.
After the last report was broadcast, several former and current members contacted not only us, but also the Ministry of Interior of the Slovak Republic.
In the Reflex report, you will also hear a foreword in the Czech Republic, where leading representatives of Jehovah's Witnesses also talk about how to treat departed members.
It is there that the man emphasizes that the rules are always the same, even if it is the immediate family.
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JW's in the Hot Seat in Czech Republic
by Sea Breeze inlooks like things are heating up in the czech republic over the horrifying practice of shunning children that ask the "wrong" questions.
kids now days have access to all of the watchtower's lies, manipulations, unnecessary deaths, flip flops, rejection of jesus as mediator etc, etc.
i predict this issue of shunning children will continue to threaten free government money that the wt receives.
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In the video @04:16 it is obvious that this relates to the Slovak Republic (https://www.culture.gov.sk/en/), not the Czech Republic. However, the online magazine which reported it is Czech (https://www.reflex.cz/).
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SECRET RECORDING 14TH APRIL:RALPH WALLS: MORE CHANGES ARE COMING!
by raymond frantz insecret recording 14th april:ralph walls: more changes are coming!.
( broadcasted to all british congregations today).
https://youtu.be/owg4bqj7pd0?si=yvfpkkos_qoy9u10.
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In the Question from Readers in the September 15, 2003 Watchtower it distinguishes between Jesus as having "life in himself" (John 5:26), meaning he can impart life to others, and his followers as having "life in themselves" (John 6:53), meaning having everlasting life. This applies to the anointed when they are resurrected to heavenly life, and to the rest of Christ's followers after the end of the thousand years.
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Alternative Military Service is Now OK
by Sea Breeze inbut i wonder: how many jw's went to prison during the years that the wt did not allow them to perform community service as an alternative to military service?.
anyone care to take a stab at the numbers?.
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Sea Breeze : how many JW's went to prison during the years that the WT did not allow them to perform community service as an alternative to military service?
A distinction should be made between community service and service (like Selective Service) which they considered to be part of the war effort. During war-time that is usually the only alternative offered to conscientious objectors.
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They Came To The Door!
by NotFormer ingoing door to door with their "memorial" invitation.
"so you can pass the emblems but nobody partakes?
them: "we can explain who is to partake".. me: "all jesus' followers".
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NotFormer : 'If the "coming" (parousia) happened in 1914, why the heck are you still doing the memorial, anyway??'
The words "until he comes" (achri hou elthe) in 1 Corinthians 11:26 is not related to parousia which JWs believe referred to his presence since 1914, but to erchomai which refers to his coming to judge the people of the earth. Compare, for example, Matthew 25:31-46; 2 Thessalonians 1:9,10. There is a discussion of the coming of Christ here.
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Former Jehovah's Witness elder committed to stand trial accused of Sunshine Coast rapes, sexual abuse
by yalbmert99 inhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-20/former-jehovahs-witness-elder-to-stand-trial-accused-of-rape/103612422.
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Scully : Let me guess.... he was still an Elder™, In Good Standing™ at the time these incidents occur. No surprise there.
No, Scully. According to a Jehovah's Witness spokesman he "was not in an appointed position throughout the time of the alleged events”. (Courier Mail, September 5, 2022)
So it follows that he was removed as an elder before 2008, when the incidents started. That doesn't entirely tie in with the police allegation that he "used his position of religious standing within the Jehovah’s Witness community to target young men in their late teens to early 20s between 2008 and 2018" but it could be true.
It is unlikely that the victims were required to testify before the Judicial Committee as they had all left the congregation and were alleged to be homosexuals.
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Former Jehovah's Witness elder committed to stand trial accused of Sunshine Coast rapes, sexual abuse
by yalbmert99 inhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-20/former-jehovahs-witness-elder-to-stand-trial-accused-of-rape/103612422.
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TonusOH : They did not mention whether the victims had reported the abuse to elders, and I am wondering if that will ever come up.
The Courier Mail of August 31, 2022 reported that
Police said in court documents three of the alleged victims approached police independent of each other; two of which tried to report the matters to the Jehovah’s Witness Religious Elders.
The Courier Mail of September 5, 2022 reported that detectives said in court documents
“The victims were accused of being homosexual, rather than (alleged) victims of systematic sexual offending.
“They were therefore not believed.”
The Courier Mail of December 18, 2023 reported that
Mr Callaghan [the magistrate] also ordered for the documents from the church to be disclosed, inspected and copied to prosecutions and the man’s law firm.
I note that in the Courier Mail of September 5, 2022, a Jehovah's Witness spokesman describes the accused as a “congregant” who had no power within the church. However, the Courier Mail of March 20, 2024 describes him as a former Jehovah's Witness so it seems as if he has either left the religion or been disfellowshipped since the police investigation started.
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s-395 Adjustments-to-handling-serious-wrongdoing-in-the-congregation
by gavindlt inthis was posted on jw leaks.. my truth's | dad seeking truth.
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hoser : Exactly how many years ago was that instruction [no need for elders to meet with disfellowshipped ones] made to the elders?
Shepherd the Flock of God, October 2023, Chapter 25 Paragraph 20
There is no formal arrangement to visit disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals each year. Rather, elders should use good judgment in determining whether and how to make brief contact with such ones...Of course, contact should not be made with active apostates, with those who are trying to lead others into sin, or with those who have made it known that they want nothing to do with the Christian congregation.