Posts by MeneMene

on speaking engagements at kingdom halls throughout the country, fathers would sometimes even offer up their daughters in marriage to him because of the prestige of his position, he said.. have any of the gals here experienced this?

did your parents 'parade you' around visiting bethelites or try to set you up with them?

MeneMene

My niece just got engaged to a bethelite. She's in her early 20s. Her mother is just so thrilled she is beside herself.

She has filled out the application for Bethel. Guess she is planning to join him there. I was surprised they are still taking applications as I thought they were laying off a lot of people.

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Question for Former/Current Elders.....

by Lumptard in

i recently received a phone call from an elder about an alegation that one of my ex-girlfriends brought up to the elders in her cong (the thing that she told the elders about was supposed to have happened 5 years ago when we were still together).

he told me what she had said about me and i said "o.k.

" in order to not confirm or deny that it was true.

MeneMene

If you confessed to him and later denied confessing where would they be?

Be careful with what you say on the phone calls, he may have another elder/witness listening in on the phone call in case you later recanted.

Someone here mentioned a week or so ago that they had a second person listening in on a phone call to him/her.

Edited to add: Confession you were reading my mind.

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DAMN IT'S COLD!!!!!

by Mary in

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anyone east of saskatoon and north of kentucky will understand this thread:.

it's frigging cold out there!!!

christ almighty when i went outside to start my car up this morning i thought i was going to freeze solid like lot's wife.

MeneMene

Sorry you guys but it has been in the low 80s yesterday and today in Phoenix.

It did get chilly enough a couple nights to freeze a lot of the plants but it didn't last long.

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Does anybody know if Prince is an active witness?

by oppgirl63 in

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my roommate and i were watching the super bowl last night and i mentioned that prince the jw was doing the halftime show.

she insisted that if he was a jw, he was either inactive or dissassociated because he was doing something that wasn't appropriate for jw's (i didn't really see anything he did that was so bad).

MeneMene

I heard a few months ago that he has gotten more serious about the WTS lately and will not sing any of his old songs that have profane/obscene words.

I noticed his dancers were all completely clothed in the half time show. Of course that could be cause it was raining & cooler.

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Video of Russells grave ...................NOT a pyramid !!

by vitty in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avc_96uf9yy.

i was watching this pro- wt video.

it showed the "real" gravestone of russell that was definately not a pyramid.

MeneMene

Highland - if you get to Bethel, maybe you can visit the Assembly Hall in Queens that has the Winged Sun God on the front of it. There is a picture at this web site - www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/dirtywatchtowersecrets.htm

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Who doesn't give two ****s about the super bowl?

by Euphemism in

so, am i the only person (or at least, the only male) in the usa who won't be glued to my tv in an hour?

MeneMene

I won't be watching.

What I usually do though is tape it so I can fast forward through the game and watch the commercials. Some of them are very good.

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Is the "Kingdom" a "government"?

by Doug Mason in

my understanding is that the wts says the "kingdom of god/heavens" is a "government".

where do they get that idea from in scripture?

i presume that by "government" they mean "a system of exercising authority through an executive policy making body".

MeneMene

There is some old information in Rutherford's book "Government", Chapter 8, page 247 starts the subtopic Theocracy.
I can't get it to copy here but it says in part,

"What form of government will then control the peoples of earth? That government will be a pure theocracy. For centuries the whole creation has groaned and suffered in pain, waiting for the manifestation of that government. (Rom 8:19) Now the time has come for its establishment, and both the rules and the ruled of the earth should learn the truth and rejoice. ... The desire of the people can come only in God's provided way. "And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us: this is the Lord; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation." - Isa. 25:9.

"A theocracy is a government of which the chief ruler is Jehovah God. He is the Maker and Executor of its laws through his duly constituted agencies. ...

The next subtopic is Jehovah King. It goes on to say that it was in 1914 that God began to exercise his authority over the affairs of the world through his beloved Son whom he then placed upon his holy throne. ... Jehovah hath become King. ... It shall not be shaken, he will judge the peoples with equity." - Ps. 96:10, Rotherham.

"God hath become king over the nations, God hath taken his seat upon his holy throne." - Ps. 47:8, Rotherham.

"Jehovah hath become king. ... - Ps. 97:1-4, Rotherham.

"Zion is the name given to God's organization, Jerusalem is also a name applied thereto, and the two names are often used to mean the same thing. ... That government, as long as the people remained in harmony with God, was a theocracy."

I ordered the CD "Rutherford's Rainbow" from Freeminds.org. It has Rutherford's books on it. I found it interesting there was only one mention of Jesus being involved. Everything else referred to Jehovah and to God.

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Somebody Help!!

by RichieRich in

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93. god will destroy all non-jehovah's witnesses at armageddon.

-in conversation jws call watchtower headquarters "the society".

2. watchtower study.

MeneMene

The list you have is really very good. There are a few of the items that probably should be reworded to take out the "must" and replace with JWs are 'encouraged to' or something softer.

Two items that jumped out at me that the JW did not mention are:

37. You cannot accept Christmas gifts - I don't think this is an accurate statement. JWs take, take and take some more. They just do not GIVE or EXCHANGE Christmas gifts.

66. JW meeting places have no windows - this has been discussed several times lately on JWD and while some KHs do not have windows, many do have windows. It was mentioned that with the quick builds it may be easier to build them without windows but no one provided anything stating they were to have no windows.

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