Posts by MeneMene

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I've got a scan of that letter!

by SirNose586 in

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friends

i just scanned the boe letter about the wt format change.

it's in .tif format.. enjoy!.

MeneMene

While the private issue WT printing logically would go down, it looks to me like the public WT printing may go up to make up for only having the one to place.

Did the printing numbers go up on the Awake when they went to just one copy per month? Looks to me like the public WT and the Awake numbers should be about the same.

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to join or not

by dontknow in

i've had in the past studied a little about the bible with jws but have yet decided to be baptised.. i've just read lavenders' moving letter to her son and her love and well being for him is very obvious.

i do like the bible teachings very much and to this day i'm very interested in the end of the system of things which will very soon come to fruition; i'm a very strong believer, however i must stipulate to all, in retrospect i'm not sinless.

one of the posters says that jw's ask you to do a liitle bible study with them, attend one of their meetings and when you get baptised you have to do exactly what you are instructed or else.

MeneMene

Here is just one example of abuse that I found on the internet - it is typical of experiences I have read here on JWD.

(http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/panorama/2124671.stm)
"Sara Poisson was a member of a Jehovah's Witnesses congregation in New Hampshire in the USA.

She went to the elders because her husband was violent.

She also suspected - rightly, it transpired - that he was sexually abusing her daughter.

The elders told her she needed to pray more and be a better wife.

She believed them and the abuse continued."

The silentlambs website I gave you earlier deals with child sexual abuse that is covered up.

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My Story: They called the cops on me!

by EnlightenedMind in

i found this website a few days ago, and ive stayed up until 3 and 4 a.m. every night since reading the all-too-familiar stories.

i applaud you for sharing your stories and being so open and caring to others who venture onto this site.

i wish id had you 9 years ago when i was dfd.

MeneMene

Welcome to the board & thank you for your story.

I am happy you were strong enough to get out and make your own way.

So many of us have been through similar things. I do think it makes us stronger and at least our children will not suffer the same as we did.

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to join or not

by dontknow in

i've had in the past studied a little about the bible with jws but have yet decided to be baptised.. i've just read lavenders' moving letter to her son and her love and well being for him is very obvious.

i do like the bible teachings very much and to this day i'm very interested in the end of the system of things which will very soon come to fruition; i'm a very strong believer, however i must stipulate to all, in retrospect i'm not sinless.

one of the posters says that jw's ask you to do a liitle bible study with them, attend one of their meetings and when you get baptised you have to do exactly what you are instructed or else.

MeneMene

You ask, "Will JWs allow their family members be abused and turn the other cheek?" The short answer is YES!

I don't believe anyone yet has mentioned the pedofile problem within the Watchtower Society. Many experiences of abuse that has been covered up is on the website www.silentlambs.org.

Also on www.freeminds.org is Barbara Anderson's story. She was working at Bethel in NY when she found the almost 24,000 case files. Barbara's story is in the list in the center of the main page. Click on the blue pointer to open the story.

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Cruising for chicks/guys @ assemblies.

by avishai in

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friends

yup, the one thing i miss about assemblies.

the chase.

sneaking off at lunch and/or half the afternoon session to make out w/ someone you just met.

MeneMene

Oh what memories - if I didn't meet a new guy at an assembly it was considered a complete waste of time.

Working at the assemblies was definitely a good way to meet guys.

12 years old is the first I remember meeting a guy at an assembly. We exchanged addresses and wrote letters for a while.

When I was 15 at an assembly in Florida I met a 30 yr old man that worked at Cape Canaveral. We sat together Sunday and by the time we got home I had a letter from him in the mail.

One assembly I met the most gorgeous guy - beautiful eyes that made me melt! I dated his roommate for a while but never got to date him. I always asked about him though. He ended up married to my cousin's SIL. Broke my heart.

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I just got this email from a girl in Russia - can any guys help her out?

by Crumpet in

seriously this just got into my intray at work - bizarre:.

hello dear friend!.

my name is natalia.

MeneMene

I suspect if anyone answers she will suddenly find 'herself' short of funds and will need you to send her a few thousand to pay for her trip, etc. (There is no guarantee it is even a female sending the email.)

Just like the Nigerian scam artists - they say whatever they need to separate you from your money.

A relative had a vehicle for sale and they responded wanting to send him a few thousand more than the price of the vehicle and he was to return the excess via Western Union. They asked him for his phone number and address. He gave them the phone and address of the local FBI office. :)

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Millions Now Living Will Never Die

by LexWatson in

millions now living will never die!

hmmm...can the historians out there please tell me what year this was first publicised?

it seems like it's old enough that the man who wrote it is surely dead!

MeneMene

www.topix.net/forum/who/jehovahs-witnesses/TBCIH889B8SGD2ONN - Auld Soul provides info on the 1918 talk where it was first presented.

www.dianedew.com/jwmillns.htm refers to p 88 of the 1921 book Millions Now Living Will Never Die

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Should I wait to be questioned by the elders? or take my leave in advance?

by Thinking of Leaving in

hi everyone, i recently joined this forum as i'm close to being df.

i am suppose to meet with a judical committee soon but was thinking that i don't want to go through those personal questions that i'm sure the elders would ask.

does anyone know, is it better to just tell the elders before, say like on the phone, that i want to be df and not go through the committee?

MeneMene

I definitely vote for not meeting with them.

When they sent word by my dad back about 1985 that they wanted to meet with me, I told him I was not meeting with them and nothing I did was any of their business. I had already been inactive for several years but a boyfriend had recently moved in with me. (Dad probably is the one that told them.)

Anyway nothing happened! The family took it upon themselves to shun me for a while until the boyfriend moved out but I never heard from the elders again.

You do not owe the elders anything. Nothing you do is any of their business.

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Husband to give wife's funeral talk

by ThomasCovenant in

a local elder is to give the talk next week at his own wife's upcoming funeral at the kingdom hall.

i've been told he seems as happy as can be.

she died from cancer and leaves behind 6 grown up children, youngest a teenager about 16 i think.. could someone please point me in the direction of the funeral talk outline?

MeneMene

Here's a site that has the outline: www.docbob.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=20 There was another on JWD not too long ago but can't find it right now. The one above looks like it is the same.

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The history of the Governing Body

by greendawn in

let's piece together the history of the gb of the jws to better understand its nature.

i start by mentioning that russell started it all by investing a lot of his money to set up the wts therefore inevitably he must have seen it as his own property, if he put in the money he should also have control over it.

then other people became investors by buying shares.

MeneMene

I have just started reading The Four Presidents of the WTS, by Edmond Gruss. I was reading the section, Russell the Businessman, last night. Apparently his father was quite successful before CTR was born.

Gruss references the Russell v. Russell case (1907 on appeal) saying it brought out the many investments and business ventures in which CTR was involved in years after he sold his clothing stores. It says, "Not only was he involved in real estate, rental and oil property, but many other enterprises. Those mentioned in court testimony include: Brazilian Turpentine Company, Pittsburgh Asphaltum Company, Silica Brick Company, Pittsburgh Kaolin Company, Black's Run Coal Syndicate, Rock Run Fuel and Gas Company, U.S. Coal and Coke Company and the Tower Publishing Company."

CTR is quoted as making the statement, 'everything that goes into the Watch Tower is under my supervision.'

There was also a company called Solon Society or Solon Association and a firm called Logan, Land & Whitehouse. They were apparently used to buy all kinds of household goods, furniture, etc at wholesale rates. CTR first denied any knowledge of Solon in court testimony but under cross examination by Maria's attorney admitted his involvement.

Clayton J. Woodworth was one of the principals of Solon. There is some interesting info concerning CJW and demon possession at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2919/wood.html