I slept-drove, shopped and apparently bought stuff, had conversations that I never remembered, and get this--apparently was so hopped on all the prescription meds (Ambien being just one of them) at the time--took a vacation with the then hubby that I remember nothing about. I found some photos when we were going through the divorce and called him to find out if he wanted them because I thought they were his. Turns out they were from a vacation I have absolutely no memory of taking with him. I guess he could have lied about that, but I couldn't see the point.
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How many others, besides myself, that take AMBIEN? Done anything crazy while you were on it?
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Question? Do you know of any statutory rape, or Child Molestation cases handled as Consensual sex (fornication) by Jehovahs Witnesses Judicial Committees?
by Balaamsass ini was talking about this with the mrs., and we can recount at least half dozen cases in the last 20 years of adult j.w.
men having sex with teenage boys or girls.
not only were the police not informed, but also the victim was treated as a guilty party in fornication.
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Facing the 3 creeps for the committee is like getting raped again. I was 10 years old at the time and not allowed to have my mother with me. I had to describe what the step-creep did to me. One of the questions they asked me was if I was sure I didn't mistake what he did for affection. Seriously? Although, perhaps in their sordid lives, forced penetration is affection. I stopped talking at that point. I could tell they were determined from the outset not to believe one of their own could be so sick. They ruled that step-creep couldn't be guilty because he cried and I didn't. Bastards! Mom was counseled not to go to the police and being a good dubbie she didn't.
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'Dinah Gets Into Trouble' - Does Story 20 Mean Rape = Fornication?
by sd-7 ini was listening, albeit unwittingly, to a 'my book of bible stories' tape and this statement caught me by surprise.
it's found in story 20:.
"one day when dinah came to visit, shechem took dinah and forced her to lie down with him.
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Sadly, I know two sisters (I guess they are still in) who were raped and df'd. One was df'd because if her skirt has been over her knees the rape would never have happened (plus she got pregnant from the rape and what kind of example would that set????). The other sickening df'ing took place because the mother did not scream. She was in the car with her daughter. Her daughter was handcuffed to the steering wheel and the rapist had a gun. He said he would shoot the daughter if the mother did anything to try to stop him.
That attitude just spills over onto abuse victims (at least it did in my case). One of the reasons I count my blessings to be out every single day!
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"Dress Code" for JW Funeral / Memorial Service
by Honeybadger inso, i'm attending a funeral for someone that was in the local congregation today.. i told my mom what i planned on wearing- a cute, dark grey blouse and some nicely tailored black pants.
she just about lost it.. mom- "you can't wear pants, it's at the kingdom hall!!!".
mom- "well, i guess you could, but you would feel so awkward and uncomfortable.
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I was a Dub most of my life and never saw a woman wearing pants to a meeting or funeral. I think a woman would have been burned at the stake for that fashion faux pas.
I say wear what you feel comfortable in and that is respectful. Pant suits cover more than dresses do.
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The Good Food Thread
by MrsCedars inmy inspiration comes from the ingredients i have at hand, very often leftovers, and also home grown produce, herbs and spices.
i still have a lot to learn, but i have come a long way since i first started cooking for mr cedars.. i think the first recipe on this thread should by the one that oodad has posted on other thread.... .
shrimp scampi.
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FreeGirl2006
I love this recipe from Pampered Chef:
Grecian Party Squares
2 packages (8 ounces each) refrigerated crescent rolls
1/2 cup mayonnaise
1/2 cup sour cream
1 envelope (.9 ounce) dry vegetable soup and dip mix
1 package (10 ounces) frozen chopped spinach, thawed and well drained
1 can (14 ounces) artichoke hearts in water, drained and chopped
1 can (8 ounces) sliced water chestnuts, drained and chopped
1 package (4 ounces) crumbled feta cheese
1 garlic clove, pressed
1/4 cup (1 ounce) grated fresh Parmesan cheesePreheat oven to 375°F. Unroll one package of crescent dough across one end of
Stoneware Bar Pan with longest sides of dough across width of pan. Repeat with
remaining package of dough, filling pan. Using Baker's Roller(TM), roll dough to
seal perforations and press up sides to form crust. Bake 10-12 minutes or until
light golden brown; remove from oven to Stackable Cooling Rack.Meanwhile, in Classic Batter Bowl, combine mayonnaise, sour cream and soup mix;
mix well. Drain spinach in small Colander, squeezing out as much moisture as
possible; add to batter bowl. Drain artichokes and water chestnuts in colander;
chop with Food Chopper. Add artichokes, water chestnuts, feta cheese and garlic
pressed with Garlic Press to batter bowl; mix well.Spread spinach mixture evenly over crust. Using Deluxe Cheese Grater, grate
Parmesan cheese over filling. Bake 10-12 minutes or until heated through.
Remove from oven; cut into squares with Utility Knife. Serve using Mini-Serving
Spatula.Yield: 24 appetizers
Nutrients per serving: (1 square): Calories 150, Total Fat 10 g, Saturated Fat 3 g,
Cholesterol 10 mg, Carbohydrate 12 g, Protein 4 g, Sodium 360 mg, Fiber 2 gCook's Tip: One-half of a 1.7-ounce envelope dry vegetable soup and dip mix can
be substituted for the .9-ounce envelope, if desired.Source: Pampered Chef
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Introducing Mrs Cedars...
by cedars ini just thought you should know that mrs cedars has finally taken the plunge and joined the forum.
she was able to log on for the first time yesterday.. though we both "awakened" at different stages, mrs cedars was very supportive and non-judgmental when i first began exploring my beliefs from a critical standpoint.
she is currently in the process of reading crisis of conscience and aquainting herself with some of the facts of witness history that were hitherto unknown.
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Welcome Mrs. Cedars! Let the recipes begin!
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Books or exercises to learn critical thinking
by Captain Obvious ini was sitting at the meeting this morning (yes, still keeping up appearances), listening to the speaker and trying to understand his lack of logic.
his talk was about education.
he seemed all over the place, not really making proper points.
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FreeGirl2006
Sorry about my prior post--trying to get the hang of links.
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Books or exercises to learn critical thinking
by Captain Obvious ini was sitting at the meeting this morning (yes, still keeping up appearances), listening to the speaker and trying to understand his lack of logic.
his talk was about education.
he seemed all over the place, not really making proper points.
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Another good book is You Are Not So Smart
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/You-Are-Not-So-Smart/dp/1592406599/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1342478998&sr=1-1&keywords=you+are+not+so+smart">You Are Not So Smart</a>
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 07-15-2012 WT Study (STRAINED MARRAIGE)
by blondie incomments.
comments.
comments.
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FreeGirl2006
With award-winning advice like "You and (ex) hubby need to take a long weekend away from the children" in response to my complaint that the (ex) hubby never wanted sex and nary a Bible in sight--yeah that inspires confidence that the Elders can help with marital issues. I left the room shortly after this stupid counsel.
Or the other classic I was told "If you had not gone back to work after you married, your family would be in better shape spiritually." I asked that Elder if he was volunteering to pay our bills since (ex) hubby was out of work and I was the sole breadwinner.
So what are the Elders qualified to help with exactly?
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How many JW pedofiles do you personally know?
by oldlightnewshite ini was just thinking that out of the 200 jws that i actually know, at least 4 of them to my knowledge are pedophiles.
i know for a fact, through personal confidences.
that means, as far as my circle of jovo friends/acquaintances goes, 2% of them are kiddy fiddlers.. without mentioning names or details, how many do you know of for a certainty to be pedos, and what percentage does it work out at, considering all your circle of jovo friends?.
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I know of one personally and he is in good standing with his congo. He was finally df'd after 20 years of my persisting my campaign against him. My sister and her stepmother (the pedo's current wife) finally came forward to back my story. He was reinstated after 2 years. Don't think anyone in his congo knows.
As for statistics on sex offenders--proceed with caution. A large portion of people on the sex offender registery probably should not be on there. Public urination, "Romeo & Juliet" romances, and other "victimless" crimes can cause someone to be placed on the list. If you research the Dept of Justice statistics you will find that sex offenders have one of the lowest recidivism rates for crimes. Most professionals who have to deal with the registry say it is an ineffective tool because the real abusers are obscured by the sheer volume of people on the list (most of their crimes not related to abusing a child). Sexual offense has become a tool for politicians to gain or keep office.
I am not siding with pedofiles, but I also happen to personally know some men who were wrongly convicted of sexual crimes and they are on the list--they cannot find jobs, fear for not only their life, but the lives of family living with them. If you do some in-depth research on the matter, it should scare everyone in the US how easy it is to get charged/convicted of being a sex offender on the unsubstantiated word of anyone. There does not have to be physical evidence to get a conviction. It is considered an "atomic" weapon for women seeking to get a divorce (and revenge at the same time). When a person is charged with a sex offense, it is guilty until proven innocent.
As a victim of a sexual predator I used to think the registry was a good thing, but doing some research has made me change my mind. I also do not agree with the court's stance that a person can be convicted without evidence of any kind and solely on the word of a child. Some troubled children do lie unfortunately...well anyway, I will get off my soapbox.