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Approved association with Jehovah’s Witnesses requires accepting the entire range of the true teachings of the Bible, including those Scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses. What do such beliefs include?

That the great issue before humankind is the rightfulness of Jehovah’s sovereignty, which is why he has allowed wickedness so long. (Ezekiel 25:17)

That Jesus Christ had a prehuman existence and is subordinate to his heavenly Father. (John 14:28)

That there is a "faithful and discreet slave" upon earth today ‘entrusted with all of Jesus’ earthly interests,’ which slave is associated with the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses. (Matthew 24:45-47)

That 1914 marked the end of the Gentile Times and the establishment of the Kingdom of God in the heavens, as well as the time for Christ’s foretold presence. (Luke 21:7-24; Revelation 11:15–12:10)

W86 4/1 pp30-31 Question from Readers

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What would you say are THE core teachings of the JWs...

by Tuesday in

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hey everyone,.

getting some feedback, what would you say are the core teachings or were the core teachings of the jehovah's witnesses.

the teachings that make them unique, the teachings that if they weren't there the jehovah's witnesses wouldn't exist.. i would say the teaching of 1914 and god choosing jws as the right religion would probably be the core teaching.

eby

*** w86 4/1 pp. 30-31 Questions From Readers ***

Approved association with Jehovah's Witnesses requires accepting the entire range of the true teachings of the Bible, including those Scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovah's Witnesses. What do such beliefs include?

That the great issue before humankind is the rightfulness of Jehovah's sovereignty, which is why he has allowed wickedness so long. (Ezekiel 25:17) That Jesus Christ had a prehuman existence and is subordinate to his heavenly Father. (John 14:28) That there is a "faithful and discreet slave" upon earth today 'entrusted with all of Jesus' earthly interests,' which slave is associated with the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. (Matthew 24:45-47) That 1914 marked the end of the Gentile Times and the establishment of the Kingdom of God in the heavens, as well as the time for Christ's foretold presence. (Luke 21:7-24; Revelation 11:15–12:10) That only 144,000 Christians will receive the heavenly reward. (Revelation 14:1, 3) That Armageddon, referring to the battle of the great day of God the Almighty, is near. (Revelation 16:14, 16; 19:11-21) That it will be followed by Christ's Millennial Reign, which will restore an earth-wide paradise. That the first to enjoy it will be the present "great crowd" of Jesus' "other sheep."—John 10:16; Revelation 7:9-17; 21:3, 4.

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Has the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" correctly foretold anything?

by donny in

one of the issues that really helped me open my eyes to the fallacy of the claims of the "faithful and discreet slave" class is that they have not been right on anything they said would happen in the future.

every instance of "new light" is simply a hindsight adjustment and their attempt to allign the beliefs with what actually is happening or already occurred.

when you examine all of their dates, and what was supposed to happen on them, as well as the generation of 1914 and the date of the sealing of the annointed, etc, etc, can you think of anything the f&ds has accurately foretold by means of "jehovahs" spirit.. don.

eby

The Hague/ League of Nations/ United Nations

"But in the second volume of Light the League of Nations was associated with this prophetic vision, exactly as Vine had done eleven years earlier. The "scarlet colored beast" (Rev. 17:3) was explained to be "The Hague International Peace Conference," formed in 1899. 14This organization "functioned until the World War. It then went into the abyss and ceased to function. After the World War it came out of the abyss or pit and began to function again in the form of the League of Nations." 15 This understanding was prevalent until 1942 (see for instance the book Enemies 1937, pp. 283ff.), when it dawned upon the Watch Tower leaders that World War II would not develop into Armageddon either. Another interpretation of Revelation 17, therefore, became necessary."

THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS AND THE UNITED NATIONS IN PROPHETIC SPECULATION

http://user.tninet.se/~oof408u/fkf/english/un.htm

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-02-08 WT Study (PURE LANG)

by blondie in

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comments you will not hear at the 11-2-08 wt study (august 15, 2008, pages 21-25) (pure language).

are you speaking the "pure language" fluently?

speaking the pure language fluently .

eby

The WT reads an awful lot into this scripture (Zeph. 3:9).

Another scripture that may have a bearing on the understanding of it is Hosea 2:16, 17: "In that day," declares the LORD, "you will call me 'my husband', you will no longer call me 'my master.' I will remove the names of the Baals from her lips; no longer will their names be invoked." (NIV)

NIV footnote: husband...master...Baals. A play on words. Of the two Hebrew words for husband, one (master) is identical with the name of the god Baal...There will be such a vigorous reaction against Baal worship that this Hebrew word for "master" will no longer be used of the Lord.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 7-20-08 WT Study (DELIVERANCE)

by blondie in

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3) what will happen to mankind when god's will is done on earth?

" (rev.

" however, "those hoping in jehovah are the ones that will possess the earth."--ps.

eby

“Peace and security” from the book “Enemies” published by WTBTS in 1937

“When the Hierarchy has gained complete temporal power of the earth, that will in her mind fully establish the conclusion that her desire has been fully accomplished, and then she will say ‘Peace and safety” (1 Thessalonians 5:3); and then the ‘ten horns’, that is, all the ruling powers of the nations, ‘receive power…with the beast,’ the League of Nations combine being in fact a league of Fascism or combined Fascist governments, dominated by the Roman Catholic Hierarchy.” Page 292

“ ‘Roman Catholic Action,’ as the selfish, political movement of the Hierarchy is now called, will soon convince themselves and others that they have put to silence all who tell the truth and who thereby expose the wickedness of the Hierarchy. Having spread their influence politically and otherwise throughout the earth and destroyed the freedom of speech and the freedom of worship, and regarding themselves as secure from all opposition, that wicked crowd is represented as saying: ‘We are now at peace and safety; we can go on without interruption and carry forward our racket to suit ourselves.’ Concerning this matter the Lord’s Word says: ‘For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.’ (1 Thessalonians 5:3).” Page 331-332

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Someone please help me out on this one. Are JW's allowed to help....

by jetery in

anyone who is d'fed(like me- dont miss it) or disassociated,etc who may be in dire need.

i know that when u are disfellowshipped u are not allowed to associate with anyone who is a witness and they are suppose to shun u the rest of your life until u come to your "senses".

but anyway what i want to know is if im on the side of the road bleeding to death and one of jw recognize will they stop and help me or anyone for that matter.even when i was in the "truth" i always wondered about that since they are not supposed to have any contact with u. where do they draw the line when it comes to shunning people?

eby

W 74 8/1 Maintaining a Balanced Viewpoint Toward Disfellowshiped Ones PP. 467-468 pars. 5-7

5 Congregational elders, as well as individual members of a congregation, therefore, ought to guard against developing an attitude approaching that which some Jewish rabbinical writers fomented toward Gentiles in viewing them as virtual enemies. It is right to hate the wrong committed by the disfellowshiped one, but it is not right to hate the person nor is it right to treat such ones in an inhumane way. As noted earlier, some rabbinical writings held that, even if in peril of death, no assistance should be extended to Gentiles. Suppose, then, a member of a Christian congregation boating on a lake were to see another boat containing a disfellowshiped person capsize, throwing the disfellowshiped one into the water where he struggled to stay afloat. Could the Christian ignore that one’s peril, row away and feel free from guilt before God—inasmuch as the one in danger of drowning was disfellowshiped, viewed as "a man of the nations"? Certainly not. That would be cruel and inhumane. We cannot imagine Christ Jesus doing so; nor would any other Jew of the first century who had a balanced viewpoint have reacted that way toward a Gentile or a tax collector in such a plight.

6 But consider a less extreme situation. What if a woman who had been disfellowshiped were to attend a congregational meeting and upon leaving the hall found that her car, parked nearby, had developed a flat tire? Should the male members of the congregation, seeing her plight, refuse to aid her, perhaps leaving it up to some worldly person to come along and do so? This too would be needlessly unkind and inhumane. Yet situations just like this have developed, perhaps in all good conscience, yet due to a lack of balance in viewpoint.

7 If we imitate our heavenly Father we will remember that he even showed certain considerateness toward the first human pair after their disfellowshiping in Eden, providing them with clothing. (Gen. 3:21) This was an undeserved kindness toward them. As Jesus reminded his disciples, Jehovah God "makes his sun rise upon wicked people and good and makes it rain upon righteous people and unrighteous." (Matt. 5:45) The apostle Paul showed that, despite the independent course the Gentile nations took contrary to God’s way, Jehovah "did not leave himself without witness in that he did good, giving [them] rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, filling [their] hearts to the full with food and good cheer." (Acts 14:16, 17) So, not "mixing in company" with a person, or treating such one as "a man of the nations," does not prevent us from being decent, courteous, considerate and humane.

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Cross quote Mar. 1, 08 WT

by eby in

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march 1, 2008 page 22.why do jehovah's witnesses not use the cross in worship?

"in agreement with this, oxford university's companion bible says: 'the evidence is...that the lord was put to death upon an upright stake, and not on two pieces of timber placed at any angle.

' clearly, the churches have adopted a tradition that is not biblical.

eby

Thank you Jwfacts, Leolaia, and all.

I heard my husband reading this quote from the WT out loud. Always suspicious of WT quotes I thought, "This is too good to be true."

He thought this was a great quote and planned to use it in field service. After our discussion I don't think he will use it.

Yes, Leo, the mention of Oxford University seems to give the quote unwarranted authority.

eby