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bernadette
happy birthday decki !!
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love with a big hug, juni .
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bernadette
watchtower, feb. 15, 1983, p. 12. .
" john 6:40 watchtower style .
the watchtower; "12/1/1981, p. 27. .
smellsgood
are you just playing devil's advocate or do you really think that JW's are truly CHRISTians.
Didn't Jesus say something like if they are not against me then thay are for me.
Pernsonally if one wants to be a christian then there are easier ways of being one. My own reason for leaving JWs is that they are very damaging re their schedule of activites etc.
btw are you a Christian?
bernadette
watchtower, feb. 15, 1983, p. 12. .
" john 6:40 watchtower style .
the watchtower; "12/1/1981, p. 27. .
smellsgood
Does the WT teach that Jesus is the mediator for all mankind? Do the Christian gospels?
Going to be different and say Yes. But they believe that Jesus is mediator by extension.
A JW confronted by that question as an individual and asking himself that Q would think "Well I know that I pray in Jesus name, I exercise faith in his sacrifce, I think about him as a model for myself and try to follow in his footsteps".
We could see the WTS as considering the Q simply as a matter of words and definitions and may console themselves with the idea that they are in fact teaching individual JWs to excerise faith in Jesus as mediator by extension.
i wrote a fictional book that incorperates a lot of how i believe, in a fantasy and some what sci fi story line.
it is only about 140 pages long and i really enjoyed writing it.
my spouse thinks it is fun and original, but i did not write it to get published.
That's brilliant free2beme. I've read some of your stories on here, so think you'll definitely be read.
watchtower, feb. 15, 1983, p. 12. .
" john 6:40 watchtower style .
the watchtower; "12/1/1981, p. 27. .
Smellsgood for debate's sake, I still think JWs are christian cos they believe in all those verses you have mentioned and use them all the time, they just have a different way of interpreting them.
bernadette
what's the main motivating force behind the average jw?.
i'd say it's a fear of their own death.
fear of dying.
Gill
I remember struggling to go to meetings, FS etc with my five little ones. My mother constantly moaning and comparing me to other 'sisters'! 'They' make it to assemblies with tall their children! Why can't you?! 'They pioneer with all their children!' So, why can't you?'
I remember vividly thinking one Saturday morning, in the pits of despair that yet again we had not been on time for FS and had not gone out, that it would be far easier to kill myself and my children that have them killed soon by God at Armageddon! How sick, twisted and tormented can a mind have become after nearly 35 years of Watchtower crap, and parental obsession with a cult, that they come to the point of thinking it is easier to just kill ourselves now. At least the kids will make it through! Shame on me, certainly! But now I know where the thoughts and ideas came from, and I can fairly say, Shame on the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and all its doom mongering Bull Shit!
I can so identify with the peer pressure aspect - I remember when my husband was reaching out and my chidlren were small - 3 and 5 - a 'well meaning' poineer sis, wife of the PO was trying to encourage me to do more in the ministry and to participate more at the meetings. She told me of a pioneer who'd had a child with Down's Syndrome and what a good example she was of strength and endurance, putting Jehovah first and not faltering over illness in the family. I remember feeling very ashamed of my own performance but at the same time knew I simply couldn't do more.
Nowadays the congregation elders use the example of the few elderly ones who haven't been ostracised to induce guilt and shame.
bernadette
looks really, really interesting:.
http://www.rationalresponders.com/forum/the_rational_response_squad_radio_show/rational_response_squad_academy/7714.
from the website:.
sound interesting - thanks for that link
b
what's the main motivating force behind the average jw?.
i'd say it's a fear of their own death.
fear of dying.
I agree its fear but its fear disguised as love.
i know many of you are dfed, daed, and faded.
what do you do to fill the void of the time left that was devoted to the religion?
i just like to know what activities you all are into.
For me I had to go though the stage of realizing that untheocratic activites that I enjoy are worth doing and fulfilling - I suppose its part of seeing there's more to life and not feeling guilty about it.
My top 2 are learning and gardening
bernadette
* i wondered why the baseball was getting bigger.
then it hit me.
* police were called to a daycare where a three-year-old was resisting a rest.
bernadette