Hi Freddie:
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the wise man j. f. rutherford wrote about the "cause of the flood" in his 1927 book creation (pp.
here he informed us of "jehovah's" view of the scientific "annular flood theory" of one isaac newton vail, which the watchtower society had been promoting for decades:.
annular means that which has the form of a ring, or ring-shaped.
Hi Freddie:
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i originally posed this question to jh in another thread, and now i'm wondering how other atheists -- especially the hardcore ones -- here would answer it.
this isn't about proving or disproving any particular viewpoint, but just an attempt to understand a mindset that seems... well... beyond my understanding.
<g> first, though, here are a couple of terms defined as used in the context of my inquiry.. science: the objective study of the natural world.. spirituality: an intangible aspect of nature/the universe (including humanity) that may or may not include belief in any deity, but which is merely a general sense that something more is out there, and also within us.
There is not such a thing like Science vs. Spirituality....because there are two different disciplines.
Let's see what the dictionary says:
Main Entry: spir.i.tu.al.i.ty
Pronunciation: "spir-i-ch&-'wa-l&-tE
Function: noun
Date: 15th century Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
1 : something that in ecclesiastical law belongs to the church or to a cleric,as such
2 : CLERGY
3 : sensitivity or attachment to religious values
So, what the heck "spirituality" has to do with scientific facts ?...NOTHING at all !!!!
The Force be with you !!!
4 : the quality or state of being spiritual
i'm sure this has been brought up before, but it gives me the willies(brrrrrr!
) to say the...jw words.
since i don't believe they are god's witnesses, then i can't say the words.
The "Judge" was the one that came with the term JW's after a sleepless nite thinking what to say in the Bible Student's Convention.
Again he claimed "angels" talked to him and "inspired" his already deviated mind to come up with such a name.
Its of no avail to try to find logical explanations to man made religion over their names and dogamas.
according to the bible, jehovah himself "raised up" resisters.
of the corrupt rulership of the elderly king, solomon.. --- you can read about it at 1kings 11:14,23-39.. the term apostasy comes from "to stand away from, rebellion",.
so "resister" can easily act as a synonym for apostate, here.. also, jehovah created dis-unity among israel by deliberately.
>The only difference with Witnesses, compared to someone like you for example, is that you're probably more open to switching to a new drug/set of ideas.<
Religion is an intangible which people use as a "crutch"/"drug" to numb their senses. No matter what faith you may have you can't prove something that you believe as real.
I'm 52 years old and studied the religion syndrome and always comes to faith = no evidence
I believe that there is a Force behind everything that exists but religion has no a logical explanation to it.
The Force be with you
according to the bible, jehovah himself "raised up" resisters.
of the corrupt rulership of the elderly king, solomon.. --- you can read about it at 1kings 11:14,23-39.. the term apostasy comes from "to stand away from, rebellion",.
so "resister" can easily act as a synonym for apostate, here.. also, jehovah created dis-unity among israel by deliberately.
Only the naive and hard core JW's can swallow their religion as being "spirit directed" or the "truth".
The 20th century left them without "due dates" and a re-make of the film: Neverending Story.
My brother pledge with me not to bring the subject of his religion any more, he has no answers and he needs the "fix" to keep living. By his own words !!!
Religion is a drug and an old communist said: " Religion is the opium of the people".
The addiction applies to ALL religions, no exceptions
The Force be with you
according to the bible, jehovah himself "raised up" resisters.
of the corrupt rulership of the elderly king, solomon.. --- you can read about it at 1kings 11:14,23-39.. the term apostasy comes from "to stand away from, rebellion",.
so "resister" can easily act as a synonym for apostate, here.. also, jehovah created dis-unity among israel by deliberately.
From top to bottom christianity doesn't make any sense. After two millenia we found ourselves in the 21st century in a world with problems but a much better better place to live than back then.
The doomsday preachers and followers of a Jesus, which we don't have no secular historical evidence that he ever existed,still wanna us to believe in their "end of times".
The "end of time" happened many times in the past.No by the hand of "god" but by accident, like 65 millions of years ago the dinosaurs were wipped out by a "rock" from outer space.
"LOS ANGELES (AP) - A group of scientists is seeking a standardized
protocol for dealing with the possibility of an asteroid or comet
striking the Earth, saying humans can do more than the dinosaurs
ever could before a colossal impact precipitated their extinction 65
millions years ago. The call comes as interest grows in the swarm of
asteroids and comets that orbit the sun in the Earth's immediate
neighborhood. The concerns were sparked in part by several recent
false alarms about impending impacts. "In some sense, it's something
we know we need to worry about, but we need to decide at what level
we need to worry about it - and that's a question for everybody,"
said Daniel D. Durda, a research scientist in the department of
space studies of the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colo.
The Force be with you
Fred, nice talking to you again
Is ok. to worship what you think is the truth but is another thing accusing others of "apostates", just because their form of belief is different or have changed.
You can't denied that thru the years the WTBS had flip flop doctrines like changing underwear, when having diarrhea
Your posting about the King of the N & S, is just one of many of those circumstances.
Fred, we're living in the 21st century, LOOK at this quote and tell what do you think
** w84 3/1 18 - And Jesus has told us to rejoice at seeing the dark storm clouds of Armageddon gathering since that time. He has told us that the "generation" of 1914- the year that the sign began to be fulfilled-"will by no means pass away until all these things occur." (Matthew 24:34) Some of that "generation" could survive until the end of the century. But there are many indications that "the end" is much closer than that!
Fred, nice talking to you again
Is ok. to worship what you think is the truth but is another thing accusing others of "apostates", just because their form of belief is different or have changed.
You can't denied that thru the years the WTBS had flip flop doctrines like changing underwear, when having diarrhea
Your posting about the King of the N & S, is just one of many of those circumstances.
Fred, we're living in the 21st century, LOOK at this quote and tell what do you think
** w84 3/1 18 - And Jesus has told us to rejoice at seeing the dark storm clouds of Armageddon gathering since that time. He has told us that the "generation" of 1914- the year that the sign began to be fulfilled-"will by no means pass away until all these things occur." (Matthew 24:34) Some of that "generation" could survive until the end of the century. But there are many indications that "the end" is much closer than that!
Thank you for the welcome, you'll
H20 is for the pits most of the people there are a bunch of fundamentalist.
>I promise not to mention a certain conflict in the S. Atlantic.<
Did you see the movie:"Last of the Mohicans", you got your rear kick by the french
The Force with you'll !!!
Hi Fred, the only thing that changes is the WTBS false forecasts, like the interpretation of the King of the N. & S.
The 20th century is gone, so all the bs. that was predicted, but still have over 6 million of suckers, like you, preaching nonsense.
The Force be with you !!!