Posts by NanaR

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I Couldn't Resist

by Poztate in

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i tried and tried and tried...but i could not resist.

i highlighted my wife's january 1 wt.. the comment highlighted..."could it then be reasoned that since jesus was enthroned in the fall of 1914,the resurection of his faithful annointed followers began three and a half years later, in the spring of 1918?.

that is an interesting possibility...although this can not be directly confirmed in the bible.... for 50 years this was fact and biblical...now they blow it off with one sentence....jw..lurkers take note..... they did this with the generation change in 1995 and the dubs are too stupid to notice the changes.. i am sure my wife will try to ignore the whole thing and not respond to it..

NanaR

Honesty,

Armageddon began in 1914.

Up until about 1969 or 1970, the JWs taught that the Great Tribulation STARTED in 1914, was cut short IN THE MIDDLE, and would conclude with Armageddon after the harvest was complete. I had to try to explain this nonsense for my whole young life. Notice this artcle in The Watchtower of March 15, 1951 (scanned in its entirety to verify context -- scroll to the right and look for the black circle and the highlighted text). This article was written about 18 months before I was born, I cut my teeth on this doctrine so to speak.

Hard for me to believe that I ever took this CRAP seriously.

NanaR

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Need a scan of old Awake!

by Shepherd Book in

hi, i'm hoping someone can post a scan (or email me) of the december 22, 1951 article entitled "noah's passender list".

i believe it's on pages 14-16. this is for a huge research project i am doing.

the cd-rom doesn't go back that far.. i would really appreciate it.. thanks!.

NanaR

I have the Watchtower bound volume for 1951, but not the Awake. Sorry... NanaR

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What is your favorite classical music piece and artist?

by restrangled in

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since modern music keeps coming up, we need to address the classical!

what are your favorite pieces and the artists?

if you play an instrument, pick the piece that's your favorite to play or you wish you could play.. r.. my favorite is fantasy impromtu by chopin.

NanaR

Johann Pachelbel's Canon in D for violin.

My daughter used to play this a lot -- and I would sometimes accompany her on the piano.

The melody line is so beautiful it makes me want to cry.

She is trying to find someone to play this on the violin for her wedding.

NanaR

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Revelation Climax, page 52, Kindly Respond

by compound complex in

dear readers of revelation,.

i have been reminded that a simple question is more effective than an elaborate presentation.

i have become very careful about what i say and how much i say to most people.

NanaR

Don't forget the "lobster claw" right hand of ol' JC hisself!

Are you talking about this? alt It is not great art... NanaR

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What the Bible Teach book doesn't say...

by drew sagan in

in looking through the watchtowers most recent study publication 'what does the bible really teach' i noticed something that makes the book quite different from all other jw publications that have come before it.

all of the previous publications used to get 'interested ones' to become jehovah's witnesses made it perfectly clear who the faithful slave was.

this is a core teaching of the jws as all of us know.

NanaR

It seems to me that they have taken out all of this in order to make people think they are simply joining up because of true doctrines, not because it is Gods organization. It can be hard for people to buy into that idea right away, but given time they can get you in their trap. So now they don't even teach their fundamental doctrine and prophecy at all to the public! It instead remains somewhat 'hidden' only to be truly understood by somebody after they have made a deep emotional commitment to the religion.

It is certainly deceptive if not blatently dishonest. Also, the recatagorization of a number of things (voting, blood fractions, etc.) into "personal conscience" issues gives people on the "outside" the idea that JWs actually get to make choices based on personal conscience. IN REALITY, most of us have had the experience that it is the conscience of the local elder body that reigns -- NOT the conscience of the individual JW. For example, what if my conscience tells me I should vote, but then someone else in the congregation claims to be "stumbled" by it? The JC might not disfellowship me for VOTING specifically, but I believe they could DF me for "disregarding the counsel of older men" and "stumbling others". What the Watchtower giveth the Society taketh away...

I posted a lengthy topic a while ago regarding some of these points, but I haven't seen it appear yet. Oh well, never know with cyberspace, maybe my browser "ate" it LOL.

Very good point about the differences between the "Teach" book and the "Organization" book.

And then of course there are the two baptismal questions. Those have not been revised to remove the organization, have they?

NanaR

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Revelation Climax, page 52, Kindly Respond

by compound complex in

dear readers of revelation,.

i have been reminded that a simple question is more effective than an elaborate presentation.

i have become very careful about what i say and how much i say to most people.

NanaR

I couldn't help but get a chuckle out of the penciled in note of, "100, 44000." Was this book used by a child per chance?

Yup, I'm quite sure it was used by more than one child, since it's my book and I have 3 daughters who would grab whatever book they could find on the way out the door to "Book study". I didn't write it myself.

Of much more interest would be their later notes to their friends (written while they were trying to stay awake at assemblies, etc.).

I didn't remove the note, because I didn't think it was any more ridiculous than the picture *hah*

Ruth aka NanaR

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SHOULDN'T THE GREAT TRIBULATION HAVE STARTED?

by Mary in

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um, wasn't the "special tract" that was being placed in october and november suppose to cause great outrage amongst false religion, in particular the catholic church?

weren't theys supposed to demand that the government ban jehovah's witnesses?

surely something would have been written in the newspapers or be on cnn about all the governments of the world going ahead and banning all religions, or did i blink and miss that?

NanaR

You guys are ALL wrong.

The Great Tribulation HAS already started... it's invisible ( TM) !

No one can see it - unless they have faith ( TM) that it has begun.

Oh. And Armageddon will also come - and will be invisible. Same story here.

Paradise? Same thing

Jim,

Sounds about right :-)

Oh yeah, and you have to live in their New World Society (TM) and put on their New Personality (TM) in order to Witness (TM) the invisible Truth (TM).

Ruth

Anybody remember the children's story "The Emperor's New Clothes"? *hah*

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Revelation Climax, page 52, Kindly Respond

by compound complex in

dear readers of revelation,.

i have been reminded that a simple question is more effective than an elaborate presentation.

i have become very careful about what i say and how much i say to most people.

NanaR

CoCo,

You're welcome :-)

I moved most of a very large JW library to another room a few years ago because I couldn't figure out what to do with it (since we aren't allowed to burn here and it was a LOT to put out for the garbage).

Since coming to this board, though, I think I can find better usage for it...

Thanks for the welcome!!

Ruth aka NanaR

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Revelation Climax, page 52, Kindly Respond

by compound complex in

dear readers of revelation,.

i have been reminded that a simple question is more effective than an elaborate presentation.

i have become very careful about what i say and how much i say to most people.

NanaR

Scanned from a "first printing" copy:

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Stick to the Borg...Your Judas kids made their choice

by Midget-Sasquatch in

yet another article in such a short period of time...someone already mentioned it would be in the jan15 2007 wt.

here are the scans:.

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NanaR

"actually thats not a bad thought, what font is it?" The closest I could find to the TEXT font (the header is different) is Baskerville Old Face. NanaR