Posts by bobld

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The GB really do not want us to think for ourselves Mar 15th WT

by life is to short in

14 years ago

i know that some of you might think that i really should be reading the wt but with a husband still in and being that i am still very tied to the religion though him i want to know what is up with them in some ways.. the march 15th wt made me feel sick.

on page 5 it was talking about how we need to wait on jehovah.

it was really the same old stuff but i feel with a different twist.

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bobld 14 years ago

LITS thanks for those points.May I add why did they use those examples less hours of work to do more cult recruiting when they cut down on aux hours to 30 per month.Sell your house didn't they use that back in 1960/70.Some did quit their full time jobs sold their house only to fine that they are in their 60ies/70ies no pension and working like a dog.Some disobayed the GB and had children that now look after their elderly parents.The end will be soon for those evil doers in. And they use the same old sh$t I guess it works for SATAN .

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A former CO elder wants to speak with me. What do you guys make of this?

by Piercingtheveil81 in

14 years ago

a former co elder visited my grandmother, who studied years ago with jws, and said he wanted to speak with me.

i da'd myself about two years ago from the org after 11 years.

i was an ms and pioneer for 8 years and the whole bit.

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bobld 14 years ago

Theocratic warfare look out.Wolf in sheeps fur.Why would anyone wait so long to talk to you.They want to put a wedge between you and your wife.I do not trust this org. because of their underhanded ways of converting people.You know the line when they first come to your door.After you are in just try and get out.Divorce,children battles,shunning etc.My 2 cents.

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Call me paranoid, but its possible that this 30 hour initiative is a weeding out process....a cull if you will...

by miseryloveselders in

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14 years ago

we've discussed a few potential reasons why the wt is promoting april 2011 as a month of special activity.

reasons include manipulating statistics, and trying to provide some kind of spark to increasingly apathetic and discouraged congregations.

i'm sure there are others i'm missing too, feel free to include those.

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bobld 14 years ago

It is a loving provision form Jehovah(GB).A few years ago they encouraged you to simipfy your life by selling your house quit your full time job,get a part time job.And go in the ministry full time.Why because the end was sooooooooooooooooo near.Are you not happy the the end didn't come because look 294k came into the cult.

Now why would they cut down on the hours when the harvest is great and the time left is reduced.They always refer to a harvest.When it comes to harvest time does the farmer start out working 16 hours a day(120hrs/per month/per pub) and gradually work 4 hours per day(30hrs/per month/pub)or does the farmer increase his time to complete the harvest.

Like I said J.W. are followers of the GB what they say it is a P for G.

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J.W. are.................

by bobld in

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14 years ago

they hold in reverence (godlike,deity) the gb.. when god (gb) speaks there is vital reason to listen.

d.c.. receiving jehovahs' (gb) instructions.d.c.. even when they made mistakes,jesus did not question,their motives.don't question gb motives.

"my follower" book.. new song book.one sister wrote"a delightful gift from jehovah(gb).yearbook 2011 why 2011 when year is only 11 days.old song book from jehovah(gb) had to many mistakes.however sister above taught it was a gift from jehovah when it first came out as all the other ones that had to be re-vised.. whatever the gb says it is from god per all j.w.. my conclusion j.w.

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bobld 14 years ago

They hold in Reverence (godlike,deity) the GB.

When God (GB) speaks there is vital reason to listen. D.C.

Receiving Jehovahs' (GB) instructions.D.C.

Even when they made mistakes,Jesus did not question,their motives.Don't question GB motives."My Follower" book.

New song book.One sister wrote"a delightful gift from Jehovah(GB).yearbook 2011 why 2011 when year is only 11 days.Old song book from Jehovah(GB) had to many mistakes.However sister above taught it was a gift from Jehovah when it first came out as all the other ones that had to be re-vised.

Whatever the GB says it is from God per all J.W.

My conclusion J.W. are followers of man.

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IF J.W. are genuine christians

by bobld in

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14 years ago

why do they need to wear a badge to a d.c.?.

should not their love be so noticeable that an observer would know that they are true followers of christ.or is their love lacking that they need a badge to identify who they are.. b.

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bobld 14 years ago

Why do they need to wear a badge to a D.C.?

Should not their love be so noticeable that an observer would know that they are true followers of Christ.Or is their love lacking that they need a badge to identify who they are.

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Reply to ELPIRO

by bobld in

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14 years ago

i wanted to reply on his post but i can't so here is my reply.. face reality elpiro.as long as there are despicable persons like hilter,stalin,etc.. we need a well equipt army to defeat scum like that.i am very thankful for the brave soldiers who did just that.. otherwise elpiro you and i would not have the freedom we do today.your 100 plus years of preaching has not brought that freedom.we need to face reality that we still have dictators today and that we need the army.. elpiro did you know that stalin said "religion needed to be removed under communist society"and that the orthodox church suffered greatly.tens of thousands of priests,monks and nuns were persecuted and killed,over 100,000 were shot during the purge.. elpiro are you not happy that the usa won the cold war.elpiro do you think they would of won the cold war w/o an army.are you not happy for the freedom that the russians have today.just think even your religion can now fight them in the courts today.do you think they could under communist rule?.

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bobld 14 years ago

Elpiro I am glad you agree with me on governments.As for the rest of your story you are like Psalms 135:16,17.

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Reply to ELPIRO

by bobld in

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14 years ago

i wanted to reply on his post but i can't so here is my reply.. face reality elpiro.as long as there are despicable persons like hilter,stalin,etc.. we need a well equipt army to defeat scum like that.i am very thankful for the brave soldiers who did just that.. otherwise elpiro you and i would not have the freedom we do today.your 100 plus years of preaching has not brought that freedom.we need to face reality that we still have dictators today and that we need the army.. elpiro did you know that stalin said "religion needed to be removed under communist society"and that the orthodox church suffered greatly.tens of thousands of priests,monks and nuns were persecuted and killed,over 100,000 were shot during the purge.. elpiro are you not happy that the usa won the cold war.elpiro do you think they would of won the cold war w/o an army.are you not happy for the freedom that the russians have today.just think even your religion can now fight them in the courts today.do you think they could under communist rule?.

b.

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bobld 14 years ago

I wanted to reply on his post but I can't so here is my reply.

Face reality ELPIRO.As long as there are despicable persons like Hilter,Stalin,etc.

We need a well equipt army to defeat scum like that.I am very thankful for the brave soldiers who did just that.

Otherwise ELPIRO you and I would not have the freedom we do today.Your 100 plus years of preaching has not brought that freedom.We need to face reality that we still have dictators today and that we need the army.

ELPIRO did you know that Stalin said "Religion needed to be removed under communist society"And that the Orthodox church suffered greatly.Tens of thousands of priests,monks and nuns were persecuted and killed,over 100,000 were shot during the purge.

ELPIRO are you not happy that the USA won the cold war.Elpiro do you think they would of won the cold war W/O an army.Are you not happy for the freedom that the Russians have today.Just think even your religion can now fight them in the courts today.Do you think they could under communist rule?

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Does The "Active Bethelite Sixscreens" Thread Help You Recognize The Watchtower Organization Is "Spying" On You?

by minimus in

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14 years ago

let me state that these sensational types of threads are counter-productive, in my humble opinion.

the whole "spying" thing and the cameras and secret recordings in shower stalls and toilets is nutty!.

do these threads help you to see how the organization is wrong?.

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bobld 14 years ago

So tell me why do they have Elders hanging out until the wee hours outside some brothers apartment or flat to see if he is screwing around.It has been noted the they would go as far a know if girl/boy are related ie bro/sis,cousins etc living in the same flat..They would know this by watching who comes and goes from that place.Oh yeah they got spys alright.They even would have someone from another cong (not to draw attention) fallow a new dunked one to see if they could fine that one living up to their rules.

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The 2nd Coming has already been proved to be a mistake

by Terry in

14 years ago

while the whole world of christianity waits and longs for the 2nd advent of jesus because it will bring their reward.... jehovah's witness already had theirs!

they simply declared that "jesus is back!".

1914 was the date assigned.. true, jesus was invisible.. true, armageddon didn't come.. true, the world went on spinning as before.. but, 1914 was date certain and remains so.. instead, jehovah's witnesses starting treating armageddon the same way mainstream christianity treats the 2nd coming.. it's coming any minute!.

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