Posts by bobld

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Rationales behind Elimination of the Book Study and Likely Effects Thereof

by Olin Moyles Ghost in

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17 years ago

i realize that the book study news has been discussed ad nauseam, but i would like to join the fun.

lots of potential reasons have been bandied about on the board.

for example, legal liability for crimes/torts that take place at the bookstudy homes may make the society nervous.

17 years ago

bobld 17 years ago

The GB said it was to save money for the R&F,high cost of gas.Why have big conventions,cost of traveling,hotel rooms, meals.Why have a special collection with a resolution for money to bring missionaries home for bigger international conventions.Book studings were located in areas where the R&F didn't have to travel far in fact a number walked.The GB said in their KM's home book studings was a protection when Satan attacks on J.W. at the end of this system.Help the R&F with costs I don't think so.Why,look at all the crap about working less more door-to door.Sell your house get an apartment go preaching Jehovah will provide if you put him first.Look at all the talk about materialism.If the J.W. are so well off that they have to constantly talk about materialism why worry about the cost of gas.

Maybe it's about control.Maybe they will have quick build compounds /prisons for the R&F.Maybe they want the R&F to think the end is really close.Sorry R&F don't think for themselves.Dam they got me on this one.

B

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New announcement from the 1st time zone in the world.

by karter in

17 years ago

just got back from the assembly the bookstudy will be part of the ministry school service metting as of 2009. the cost of fuel is 1 reason.

to many elders taking bookstudys time could be better spent on other things.

family heads can now spend more time with there familys.

17 years ago

bobld 17 years ago

Do David Letterman top 10 things why the cbs changed.

10.Poor cbs attendence makes bad reports.

9.Spiritual waters are drying up at cbs.

Bob

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WT last week 'This Generation"

by bobld in

17 years ago

i have a question for leolaia.you did an excellent review of last weeks wt study article i appreciated it q13/14.

in the paragragh ""as a class,these anointed ones make up the modern-day "generation" of comtemporaries that will not pass away "until all these things occur" "" see footnote.. my question...if the anointed.ie 144,000 make up a generation of comtemporaries.

would they not be part of a generation say in the 1st century,the 5th century,10th century.15th century 18th century,19th century(1914) providing the proper food at the proper time.if that is so than how can the gb say this generation(anointed ones)will not pass away and that we are living "in the conclusion of the system of things"?

17 years ago

bobld 17 years ago

I have a question for Leolaia.You did an excellent review of last weeks WT study article I appreciated it Q13/14. In the paragragh ""As a class,these anointed ones make up the modern-day "generation" of comtemporaries that will not pass away "until all these things occur" "" see footnote.

My question...if the anointed.ie 144,000 make up a generation of comtemporaries. Would they not be part of a generation say in the 1st century,the 5th century,10th century.15th century 18th century,19th century(1914) providing the proper food at the proper time.If that is so than how can the GB say this generation(anointed ones)will not pass away and that we are living "in the conclusion of the system of things"? True they will say look at the signs in Matt.,Luke, world events etc since 1914.Explain,"This suggests that some who are Christ's anointed brothers will still be alive on earth when the foretold great tribulation begins." All over 100 years old,so they should be walking off the stage by now (gehenna).

THE END

Bob

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Emotional Reactions to the Loss of the Book Study

by DT in

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17 years ago

i think the loss of the book study will hit some like a death of a friend.

it will mark the end of an era.

it will forever change the religion of jehovah's witnesses and i believe the change is completely irreversible.. of course, most witnesses will be delighted by this.

17 years ago

bobld 17 years ago

The br....less R&F slaves will bow down and thank their masters (GB/FDS).Saying they are preparing for the end.However,I'am at a loss because a few years ago they were saying that the bookstudies were a place of refuge when the persecution starts.

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How the new "generation" study went down in the meeting today

by slimboyfat in

17 years ago

i made a big effort to get to the watchtower study today.

i have not been to the meetings much for months, but i figured this was a pretty historic "study" and i wanted to see reactions and how it would go down locally.

well a few things struck me as a bit odd in the study itself, and in the audience response as well.

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bobld 17 years ago

Slimboyfat,I enjoyed your comments.I felt the same.Extended period=short period of time.90 years=just around the corner=last hour.The kicker "the conclusion of the system of things and the end.Can be illustrated by a talk given at the Kingdom Hall.The talk is the last section which the speaker spends a little time.Q4 & 5 Talks about Jesus presence is an extended period of time.Just like their concluding prayers at the D.C. an extended period of time.

In our Hall,When they got to part "The Generation Seeing the Sign" it was covered very fast with few comments because they made sure all the time was gone by para 10.

Bob

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-20-08 WT Study (Presence)

by blondie in

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17 years ago

"what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system things?"--matt.

q) 6 what does revelation chapter 12 help us to understand about christ's presence?

q) 8, 9. who would recognize the sign of christs presence and understand its meaning?.

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bobld 17 years ago

Thanks for your WT review, Blondie.

Q10,11 Apostles,part of this gensration................ Apostles would no doubt have understood...........were to be part of 'GENERATION" that would not pass away.Then why did the Apostles ask Jesus all those questions if they understood?

Q15 Without spiritual understanding=GB of WT.Look at all their wishy washy understanding of the generation.In todays study of the WT they refer to the 1995 WT,why not to all the WT'S and publications that said "This generation that saw 1914 will NOT pass away before the end comes".

Bob

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Bethel Photo Album

by jefferywhat in

17 years ago

i want to put together a little video for youtube of all the big bethels/assembly halls from around the world.

could 1 person from each country post a googleearth shot of the bethel and assembly halls in their country ( three for the us, wallkill, ny, paterson) .

i think it would be interesting to put together a video album of all the real estate globally!

17 years ago

bobld 17 years ago

Sure is beautiful.Now show some mud huts with wooden benches if S.A. That is the Kingdom halls for the poor African brothers and sisters.Not their fancy bethel homes in S.A.

B

PS.Oh, all the fancy expensive bethel homes are a show for the public.There is a scripture about a showing off your loot.DO not give me that shit about this is pair a dice.Maybe it's true they gamble with peoples money(pair-a -dice)

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3 Baptized at our latest Special Assembly Day at Bristol

by ThomasCovenant in

17 years ago

our special assembly day at bristol assembly hall has just finished.

as i've said before in october 07 http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/144194/1.ashx regarding the last two day assembly weekend.

the numbers are still down.

17 years ago

bobld 17 years ago

Yeah give via credit cards.Hypocrates over 50% of their talks are about materilaism.Simpify,don't work overtime,get a part time job.Go preach,go and get more members we need some rich suckers who are educated,have well paying jobs so they can hand over their loot.We don't give a shit if the credit cards charge 25% interest,thats your problem not ours.Oh,by the way if you get in financial difficulty.WE DID NOT SAY YOU HAD TO USE YOUR CREDIT CARD TO MAKE VOLUNTARY DONATION.So don't blame us it was ALL up to you.

Look at all the financial trouble in the U.S.A.

B

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Please help ASAP....UN question reguarding the ESCSOC

by middleman in

17 years ago

hey yall i have a question that i'm quite curious of.

it says in the 2005 un accreditation form "in 2002 we instituted the review process for ngos associated with dpi".

now on the un website it says "resolution e/1996/31 adopted in july 1996 to replace resolution 1296 of may 1968 rules the current arrangements for consultation with non-governmental organizations.

17 years ago

bobld 17 years ago

Does it matter?If wbts registered with Un in any capacity to promote even a single letter of the UN are they not promoting Satan's ways?You know Satan transformed himself into an angle of light.So in a sense Satan promotes good things.

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My rebuttal to the Watchtower NGO A4 PDF Nov 07

by middleman in

17 years ago

or you can just look at it at the website without the page numbers i referenced.

i know this is very old hat for most folks here but new to me.

most of the information i got was from here and the un website.

17 years ago

bobld 17 years ago

Who is right the WBTS or the so called Apostates.The WBTS say they registered with UN-DPI as an NGO to use the library to support the UN about human rights,freedom of worship,etc.Than when the Guardian reported in 2001 (10 years after the WBTS joined the UN) the WBTS disassociated from the UN.WHY WHY after 10 years of support for humans rights and freedom of worship.Do not human rights, freedom of worship, etc matter anymore.Should not the WBTS be more concern about human rights and freedom of worship more so now that they say we are closer to the end of this system.

Bob

PS:There was a letter from a Jones to wbts and a reply from the wbts.They told Jones he was wrong in his assessment of the UN-DPI/NGO and the wbts.

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