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  Is the God of the wbts a loving God?

  by bobld in

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  to the woman he said....i shall greatly increase the pain of your pregnancy.. to the man he said....cursed is the ground---in pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life and thorns and thistles it will grow for you.in the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground ( death).. now lets look at the above in todays world.would the state (government) after convicting a man of murder, torture him by hard work all his life only to kill him at the end of his life.would a loving parent torture his son all his life for one mistake.. why does god of the wbts blame man for ruining the earth when he made those evil thorns and thistles.today man had to get destroy those evil weeds by chemicals.see no thorns no chemicals.. the list goes on...look at all of god's wars and destruction.. maybe it is me but the more i read the bible the more i get *^%&^%#* .......................... bob.

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  Thanks Baba The book sounds good.

  Bob
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  Is the God of the wbts a loving God?

  by bobld in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to the woman he said....i shall greatly increase the pain of your pregnancy.. to the man he said....cursed is the ground---in pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life and thorns and thistles it will grow for you.in the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground ( death).. now lets look at the above in todays world.would the state (government) after convicting a man of murder, torture him by hard work all his life only to kill him at the end of his life.would a loving parent torture his son all his life for one mistake.. why does god of the wbts blame man for ruining the earth when he made those evil thorns and thistles.today man had to get destroy those evil weeds by chemicals.see no thorns no chemicals.. the list goes on...look at all of god's wars and destruction.. maybe it is me but the more i read the bible the more i get *^%&^%#* .......................... bob.

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  To the woman he said....I shall greatly increase the pain of your pregnancy.

  To the man he said....Cursed is the ground---in pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life and thorns and thistles it will grow for you.In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground ( death).

  Now lets look at the above in todays world.Would the state (government) after convicting a man of murder, torture him by hard work all his life only to kill him at the end of his life.Would a loving parent torture his son all his life for one mistake.

  Why does God of the wbts blame man for ruining the Earth when he made those evil thorns and thistles.Today man had to get destroy those evil weeds by chemicals.See no thorns no chemicals.

  The list goes on...Look at all of God's wars and destruction.

  Maybe it is me but the more I read the Bible the more I get *^%&^%#* .........................

  Bob
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  NOVEMBER 1 WATCHTOWER - DOES IT SAY THAT NON DUBS MAY BE SAVED?

  by BluesBrother in

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  a certain witness,kind of close to me,is insistent that this article confirms her conviction that the wt teaches that jehovah will judge hearts at the "end" and both j w's and non j w's may be saved ....i say that it teaches the opposite.

  what do you think?

  how do you read it?.

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  Bluesbrother.I agree with you.They try to put a spin that is palliate for the public but they are not being truthful.

  Bob
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 09-14-08 WT Study (CHALLENGES)

  by blondie in

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  comments you will not hear at the 09-14-08 wt study (july 15, 2008, pages 7-11) (challenges).

  review comments will be in red.

  wt material from today's wt will be in black.

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  Thanks,Blondie

  Q17 JW comments they(people) will be sorry that they didn't listen to us.Who are they to judge.

  Also comments focused more on placing literature and GB/FDS, God's org.than Jesus/bible.

  Proof God's holy spirit backing ministry because look at all the increases in countries under band.Right on I guess there in no God's holy spirit in the western countries because look at no increases.

  Bob
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  Big JW mutiny in the Vancouver BC area!!

  by 1914BS in

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  well this year'a assembly is over and the dubs in the vancouver bc area are mad at the gb.

  about 100.000 dubs had to travel all the way to kamloops bc about a 300 mile drive one way!!.

  i have heard that that each dub had to shell out $500 bucks and more for food and lodging just to hear some druel about scolio.

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  The GB/FDS can see all the kickbacks from all those hotel rooms.They do not care about the R&F.It's all about money.Sell your homes stop saving for retirement give give give donate all of your savings,wills.estates,jewellery to WBTS CORP.

  Bob
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  Does Freewill require the presence of evil ?

  by caliber in

  1. watchtower
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  the free will defence for god.

  to justify the existence of evil and suffering, despite god being all powerful and benevolent, it is said that free will is of such high worth that it is worth the risk of us using it to create evil.

  the argument against god.

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  Some argue that God did not create evil but gave man freewill.The outcome of evil is man's doing.

  Let me explain my view by way of examples.Ex.1 God knew the exact date and events of Jesus Christs' birth. Ex.2 About 200 in years in advance,He foresaw Cyrus conqueror Babylon.So before Adam/Eve were created God foresaw and knew the outcome of their freewill.Wars,widespread hunger,earthquakes,disease moral and social breakdown.Are you right in saying all these bad things are becauses of man's freewill?If God knew these things before hand why would he create man only to see him suffer?Let me explain it in another way.If a woman is pragnant and knows that if she takes thioantimonite(not sure of spelling) her baby will be born deformed.Will she take this drug and have a baby and see it suffer needless.
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  HAVE YOU WONDERED? Pubic WT of Oct 1.2008 page 31

  by bobld in

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  2. friends

  "you may have heard that jehovah's witnesses do not accept blood transfusions.this scriptural stand is often misunderstood.their stand is based on the fundamental law that god gave to mankind.just after the flood of noah's day.god imposed this one restriction.they were not to consume blood.

  (genesis 9:3,4)it was never recinded.

  over eight centuries later,god reaffirmed that law to the nation of israel,explaining that the blood is sacred, representing the soul,or life itself.

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  "You may have heard that Jehovah's Witnesses do not accept blood transfusions.This Scriptural stand is often misunderstood.Their stand is based on the fundamental law that God gave to mankind.Just after the Flood of Noah's day.God imposed this one restriction.They were not to consume blood.(Genesis 9:3,4)It was never recinded. Over eight centuries later,God reaffirmed that law to the nation of Israel,explaining that the blood is sacred, representing the soul,or life itself.(Leviticus 17:14) Over 1,500 years later,the Christian apostles commanded all Chrirtians to "keep abstaining......from blood."-Acts 15:29. To Jehovah's Witnesses,it is clearly impossible to abstain from blood while taking it into the body in a transfusion.They therefore insist on alternative treatments."

  Is the GB/FBS being honest with the public on their stand on blood?When the private WT and Kingdom ministry, stand on blood is different from the above.Example ,Jehovah's Witnesses can take blood fractions that are made from whole blood.If God's law was never recinded,how can the GB/FDS say it is ok to take blood fractions because of modern technology?Is taking blood fractions an alternative treatment?

  Bob
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  Freewill - does it really exist?

  by eyeslice in

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  paul wrote in romans 7:19;"for what i do is not the good i want to do; no, the evil i do not want to do.

  this i keep on doing.. so is there such a thing as free will, or are we all driven by our nature (our genes), .

  our nurture or both?

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  If we were created like robots.would free will matter and we we know the difference.You see God did not create us with free will.Why I say this, because it is in his BS bible.Are people happier then animals?

  Bob
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear At the 08-31-08 WT Study (FIRST LOVE)

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  q 1, 2. how did you feel when you became convinced that what you were learning about jehovah was the .

  truth?.

  what convinced you of the truth?

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  Thanks,blondie

  Maybe I am wrong but it looks like this is a wake call,because many are fading.

  40 years ago they sold houses end is near,Now they can't clean houses.

  25 years ago sold houses end around corner,Now can barely clean houses,

  5 years ago sold house end any hour.Now couple divorced.

  Delusions in la la land.

  Bob
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-24-08 WT Study (AUTHORITY)

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  rank and file.

  12:2) far from being independent, they are "slaves of corruption," to use the words of the christian apostle peter.

  is everything non-jws do from satan?.

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  Thanks.Blondie

  Q3.It is not that we blindly do whatever we are told? You got that right,FDS/GB.I would never sell my home for you guys.I would never retire early from my job for you guys.I would never believe your wishy-washy stories ie Blood fractions,voting,what is a generation,the end time.

  Q6 So what is God telling us...to believe him and the Bible.He will make our path straight not some knucklehead in N.Y.

  Q9 Principle.Do you the FDS/GB really know the meaning of that word.

  Q11 flee from fornication.See bookstudy.Who was it that Jehovah asked Hosea to marry.

  No,No,No FDS/GB we do not follow your style of authority.

  Bob

  PS:I have a question.If Satan is so intelligent why did he kill Jesus?You would think he would in all his power kept him alive to defeat God's plan.