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Conversation with a JW

by VanillaMocha73 in

i wrote: .

i saw your email address on the post about the arson at your church.

i was wondering if you could answer some questions about your church?

Frequent_Fader_Miles

What an example of brainwashing at it's ultimate best!

Is God so flighty that he cannot make up his mind? Is God a liar? NO!
What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled.

The whole business of "new light" flies in the face of this reasoning. Seems like he deliberately misled the flock ... only to redirect them later.

HOW can you possibly be claiming to obey Jehovah's 2 greatest commandments (To love God with your whole heart, soul and mind and to love your neighbor as Jesus loved us) how can you claim to be obeying Jehovah's two greatest commandments and yet NOT feel the urge to help them overcome it!

Jesus also encouraged us to love even our ENEMIES. How exactly is this love displayed? What about that unconditional love Christians are bound to show (agape). Her skewed reasoning seems to lump all types of love together. There are different types of love for differing relationships, and they come with their own set of rules.

I understand being busy, but the thought that comes to mind is this: If you do not take time for Jehovah, why should he take time for you?

Would a thought like this come to God's mind as well? Would a God "who IS love" reason like this? God's unconditional love is extended to everyone regardless of their time management. He provides for everyone. Does he not judge our heart condition, while mankind judges the outward appearance?

I wish you the best, but I will not answer your questions. If you're serious abuot finding them then either start a study with the witnesses or seek Jehovah, and if your heart is pure, He may decide to open your heart up to understanding. But I will not answer your questions for reasons already given numerous times. Repetition of your question is not going to change that.

Is there any example in the bible of Jesus responding to anyone in such a callous manner? The son of God was a meek and humble person whom even children felt comfortable around. He even ignored tiredness and hunger in his ministry ... the sheep were very important to him.

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The Kingdumb Melodies

by WTWizard in

one of the things i find distasteful is what the witnesses' taste for music is.

they have the same 225 songs that they had since 1984. and many of those were carried from the previous book.. what i noticed while i was there is that none of the songs are really music.

they are so poorly written and performed that i think whoever was in charge of it just threw it together.

Frequent_Fader_Miles

They have the CDs, and they are so poorly recorded that the most entertaining part is when they put the wrong disc in or push the wrong button. Then the song they are instructed to sing will not match the song that they are playing, and everyone would try to sing the correct song to the wrong accompaniment. They would get half a stanza before anyone would fix the problem.

LOL Oh how I remember these illustrious occasions as well! It happened many times in the Hall I attended. You would think that the rank and file would at least recognize it was the wrong song ... but alas! There would be one or two over zealous JW nitwits trying to outshine everybody else, pretending that they were familiar with the song while no one else was. HA HA!

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Incredibly aggressive email I received from a JW

by jwfacts in

i put the following comment on answers.yahoo.com about changes to watchtower revelation doctrine.

there have been three different versions of god given light in the watchtower publications so far;.

1. calvin studies in the scriptures series vii- the finished mystery p.151 "calvin is entitled to the honor of having at one time been a papal star .... is called wormwood.

Frequent_Fader_Miles

I noticed the letter was full of stupid errors. No apostrophes. No capitalizations. Bad grammar. If this is how they write, then I can't wait until they try letter writing witnessing.

Letter writing witnessing ... how appropriate. No spelling skills; no writing skills; no editing skills ... so pathetic. What's he/she doing on the internet anyway? Doesn't he/she follow all the "counsel" given on the dangers of being on the internet? Then again, he/she probably has no reading skills either. That "advice" probably just flew right over their head.

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The Greatest lies of the Truth........do you know some ?

by Handsome Dan in

i was just reading some of the topics in the forum and i was just pondering on how many lies and devious half truths the wts.

put forth and marketed to .

the general public, it certainly is a huge pot of some of the biggest lies and deceiving statements that men have ever derived from the holiest book the bible.. .

Frequent_Fader_Miles

James 2:26 - "so also faith without works is dead"

How do they come up with the notion that "works" equates "field service"? Did any of the examples given in the entire 2nd chapter of James ever turn in a field service report?

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New Watchtower conductor guidelines

by Frequent_Fader_Miles in

hinging on an earlier thread on this topic; here's a quotation from the text of the letter to all elders:.

"the kingdom ministry school textbook emphasizes the importance of thorough preparation on the part of the study conductor.

but this does not mean that he should introduce additional material from his own personal research and thus possible overshadow what has been published in the magazine.

Frequent_Fader_Miles

Hinging on an earlier thread on this topic; here's a quotation from the text of the letter to all elders:

"The Kingdom Ministry School textbook emphasizes the importance of thorough preparation on the part of the study conductor. But this does not mean that he should introduce additional material from his own personal research and thus possible overshadow what has been published in the magazine. Extensive research has already been involved in producing the study article, and the points to be emphasized are those included in the paragraphs under consideration. When outside material is introduced, it often detracts from what "the faithful and discreet slave" has prepared for the congregation. (Matt 24:45-47) The impression may be given that the additional information from the conductor's research is of equal or greater value."

Now, check out this gem from the Quotes website:

*** Our Kingdom Ministry November 1999 pp.3-6 Use of the Internet-Be Alert to the Dangers! ***

20 The publications provided by Jehovah's organization stimulate our minds with upbuilding thoughts and train us "to distinguish both right and wrong." (Heb. 5:14) Can we say that this is achieved if others do our research for us?
21 The Beroeans were spoken of as "more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica." Why? Because "they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so." (Acts 17:11) Although Paul and Silas preached to them, they could not make the truth their own without becoming personally involved.
22 Using another person's research for a talk or for other meeting preparation really defeats the purpose of personal study. Is it not your desire to build up your own personal faith in God's Word? Based on personal conviction, you can then make public expression of your faith-in your talks, in comments at the meetings, and in the field ministry. (Rom. 10:10) Using another person's research does not fit the description given at Proverbs 2:4, 5 to personally 'keep seeking and searching for the very knowledge of God as for hid treasures.'

Aren't these two bits of advice contradicting one another? First, you shouldn't highlight additional research .... then you shouldn't use others research, do your own. Isn't it simply amazing how the Society is able to twist the scriptures to suit their own changing agenda?

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The Kingdumb Melodies

by WTWizard in

one of the things i find distasteful is what the witnesses' taste for music is.

they have the same 225 songs that they had since 1984. and many of those were carried from the previous book.. what i noticed while i was there is that none of the songs are really music.

they are so poorly written and performed that i think whoever was in charge of it just threw it together.

Frequent_Fader_Miles

In my entire JW experience I've always found that there was hardly any emphasis placed on singing as a whole. You were limited to those dry, tasteless renditions. As a child I remember the live music during the break at assemblies ... flourishes and all, it was great. Of course the "Society" has done away with all that. Even at the Hall where we had a piano, and an accomplished player ... they stopped his embellishments.

A close relative of mine used to render a quite stirring rendition of "A Prayer of Thanksgiving" in their own opera style.

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TWO DUMB QUESTIONS.......PLUS, ADD YOUR OWN DUMB QUESTIONS

by Warlock in

jw
friends

when you eat crackers, do you lay them out salt side up, or salt side down?

do you put them in your mouth salt side up, or salt side down?.

are there any other dumb questions you can think of, to post on this thread?.

Frequent_Fader_Miles

When you put toilet papper on the roll do you put it over or under?

What the hell is "toilet papper"?

Are you truly a "right hander" if you do everything else "left handed" but write?

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Near death experience

by Frequent_Fader_Miles in

any one out there ever had a nde (near death experience)?

what was it like?

did you see the white light at the end of a tunnel, with your loved ones standing near the end?.

Frequent_Fader_Miles

Any one out there ever had a NDE (near death experience)? What was it like? Did you see the white light at the end of a tunnel, with your loved ones standing near the end?

Not that I've ever had one myself; I'm only curious.

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Do You Still Act Like A Jehovah's Witness?

by prophecor in

i'm not very far removed, any longer from how i presented myself as a witness, and how i do today.

i'm usually polite, cordial, respectful of others, even those who i may have very little regard for or those who on a regular basis, piss me off.

i work very hard not to use foul language.

Frequent_Fader_Miles

I would have to say no, as I no longer "attend meetings", "attend conventions", go out in "field service", or any of the other JW activities. However, I don't believe that Jehovah's Witnesses have NOT cornered the market when it comes to good behaviour, or being a responsible member of society. Many members of other faiths exhibit the same good qualities. As a JW, I was always commended for my "graciousness", but even out of the "truth" I still receive complements in that regard.

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What are the 3 meetings per week each about?

by tioga joe in

i recently went to my first sunday "bible study".

i have heard my jw say that he goes to 3 meetings per week.

so, what are the other two meetings about and when do they hold those?

Frequent_Fader_Miles

Do more field service, ~~sell~~ place more ~~litterature~~ literature, ~~underline more~~ prepare in advance for meetings ... zzzzzzzzzzzzz

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