Cindi_67

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  It's June 13th all over the world...no armageddon

  by dawg in

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  damn it, i thought yesterday was the end.... i'll have to put up with you apostates a little while longer.

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  Did I miss something? Where did these rumors started? Can anybody tell me? I guess my birthday has a dark tone to it. No wonder I behave the way I do. Where did you all hear that yesterday was suppose to be "the End"?
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  Changes...............

  by why??? in

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  does anyone know of any changes in policy that's going to be implemented in or around 2008?

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  change in disfellowshiping rules etc.

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  Does anyone know of any changes in policy that's going to be implemented in or around 2008? Ex. change in disfellowshiping rules etc.?

  Is this the actual change you are asking about or it's just an example of you think might be one of the changes? Could you be more specific about the rumors?
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  Quantum Universe

  by undercover in

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  an acquaintance was telling me about how there have been some new discoveries in quantum mechanics and that "everything we know is going to change", his words.

  he said that these top scientists and physicists have already met with the world's top religious leaders and explained to them what they have discovered and how it will change everyone's perception about reality.. i'm not all that informed on quantum mechanics and all that scientific mumbo-jumbo other than to know that some people believe that there are parallel universes and that it might be possible(?

  ) that we exist in different universes at the same time.. from what this guy was telling me, i gathered (i think) that reality and our perception of reality is based on nothing tangible except information.

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  To me is a very interesting subject although I do not have the brains to understand it all. I started reading a few books under that subject and seems very complicated. However it made me think, we have been created at God's image. He gave us the brains and the intelligence. If human beings are capable to deal with such profounds subjects, then there must be something real about it. We will never be able to understand the misteries and secrets of the Universe, so what if some of those theories are true? God himself is a mystey and to our eyes it's almost impossible to believe that there is a being countless of times more powerful than we are, incapable of dying. He defies all physics, or at least what we think are the rules of physics. So, what these scientists are trying to discover might as well be God's realm.

  Many years ago it was impossible to believe that the Universe held Black Holes, that those things couldn't exist. But they do. And men have been able to discover them and explain them. That we don't understand the physics of it, does not make it unreal.

  But if there is somebody out there that is into these things and can explain like we are 5 years old, please do so.

  Thank you
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  Are you: Disfellowshipped; Disassociated; Irregular: Memorial Attender: N

  by mtsgrad in

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  good evening,.

  i am a virgin to this forum do bear with me!.

  i am curious who visits.

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  Baptized, inactive for 1 year. Not sure if I will ever go back. Entire family are witnesses. Hard to DA because of that.
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  Circuit Overseer's Callous Remark

  by snowbird in

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  i was just thinking about a co's closing remarks one sunday after the watchtower study.

  he stated that he had heard that ray franz was dead.

  he didn't call him by name, of course.

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  He stated that he had heard that Ray Franz was dead. He didn't call him by name, of course. But he stated that a former GB member who turned apostate had recently become very ill. His word were, "I imagine by now he's dead."

  Far be it from me to defend a WTS representative, but what was so terrible about this? That he called him an "apostate"? That he was wrong about his being dead?

  First of all, what's the need of him mentioning Ray Franz at all? Why does he care whether or not he is still alive? I thought, because he turned "apostate" he shouldn't even be mentioning him. What was the point? I think that is why his remark was so cold, its because there is no need to mention Mr. Franz, if it wasn't even relevant to his talk. The fact that he mentioned him just to say he was probably dead, makes it callous. As if he was happy about it.
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  Don't read this!! As I am really P....off at the WT and have to vent

  by RedPill2006 in

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  today i have realized (once more) how the watchtower shit cult has ruined my life!

  today i am really pissed off at them...... i'm writing this hoping that two groups of people read this.

  either some watchtower people that monitor this site or people that think to join this crap!.

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  Cindi_67

  Wow, a pioneer and an elder. What happened? What's gotten you so mad? I understand you

  when you talk about education because I myself took a quick course, because back in the 80's

  it was practically a sin to go to College. They will say it was a matter of personal decision but at

  the same time will give talks saying how bad it was for a Christian to attend College. Now both 

  my husband and I are struggling with him at a night time job not paying too bad, but not as good

  as it should at this time of our lives, and me at an office. I can't say it's all bad, but I guess it

  could've been better, considering that if we had taken a 4 year course in College we would

  have been out by 1990; 17 years ago. He would have been more prepared and maybe I 

  would either be a stay home mom or at least would have a part time to cover my knick-knacs.

  With a 9-5 M-F job we might have even be attending all meetings and doing everything else

  without regrets. Or maybe not. The point is that I agree with you and understand your 

  frustration and the need of having to vent them all out, because every now and then and sit

  down to think and get very angry at the fact that I didn't study and chose a good career for me

  as I was not after a rewarding life or on becoming rich, but just to be able to live comfortable.
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  Anybody attended the Memorial last night? What was your experience?

  by Cindi_67 in

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  for the first time in a year i set foot on a kh.

  the memorial to me is still somewhat sacred so i decided to attend.

  i thought i would feel different, in the sense that maybe i would miss meetings, but i was wrong.

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  This year it was apparently an entirely new outline. I had never heard this Memorial discourse before.

  The talk was slanted heavily toward JW's themselves. IOW Preaching to the choir. An interested person off the street would not have been able to follow the leaps in reasoning as the speaker jumped from the "Little Flock" of the Lucan account to the "144,000" of Revelation and from the "Great Multitude" of Revelation back to the "Other Sheep" of the Johannine gospel with no explanation whatsoever.

  Then it must be a new outline, because that is what I noticed in the talk given at the Memorial I attended. For the new ones there it must have been a very confusing talk. It was clearly said that only 144,000 partake from the emblems, and, we as part of the "other sheep" are only observers, both with the promise of everlasting life either in heaven or on earth.
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  Anybody attended the Memorial last night? What was your experience?

  by Cindi_67 in

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  for the first time in a year i set foot on a kh.

  the memorial to me is still somewhat sacred so i decided to attend.

  i thought i would feel different, in the sense that maybe i would miss meetings, but i was wrong.

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  Yes I remember when they used to describe how they were able to get unfermented bread and the wine and such, But I didn't hear that either on yesterday's talk. I don't know something about it didn't add up.
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  Anybody attended the Memorial last night? What was your experience?

  by Cindi_67 in

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  for the first time in a year i set foot on a kh.

  the memorial to me is still somewhat sacred so i decided to attend.

  i thought i would feel different, in the sense that maybe i would miss meetings, but i was wrong.

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  I did. For the first time in a year I set foot on a KH. The Memorial to me is still somewhat sacred so I decided to attend. I thought I would feel different, in the sense that maybe I would miss meetings, but I was wrong. I remember listening to the Kingdom songs while they were passing the bread and the wine, but not even that happened. I don't know if this is a change, or it was just this congregation, but when they played the songs, at least it gave you a sense of something more spiritual and the opportunity to reflect on the ocassion. Two things got my attention: The speaker said that in order to benefit from the provision of everlasting life, being possible by means of Jesus' sacrifice, those in attendance should have to acquire knowledge of Jehovah and his son and, hear this..., be baptized as a CHRISTIAN. Where did that come from?

  Also at the end of the talk, he said he had an announcement from the FDS. But it was just an invitation for those visiting, to talk to any of the friends present to ask for a Bible study. I thought the announcement was something out of the ordinary. When did they make this a special announcement from the Society?

  Anyway, I felt "dissapointed" because I actually thought I will get encouraged to see the "good" in going back to the meetings. But I didn't feel anything that would give me that desire.

  Anybody out there with more experiences?
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  what did you "sacrifice" when you came in the Truth?

  by skyclad in

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  i'm a newbie, bin lurking for days and bin doing so much research from your informative threads that my family think i'm possibly "comin back in the truth" =not!

  this is my 1st post so forgive if already done before, but just wondered what you had to "sacrifice to come in the truth?

  in my case, i was baptised in early 80's, my study conductor and all the dubs heavily drilled into us young-uns to sacrifice whatever it takes to please the org.

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  I guess most of all here have sacrificed basically the same thing. Education. Like one member said, back in the '80's the Org. got very strict about higher education. Most of us had to give up the opportunity to go to college and at least get an Associate's Degree. It was said that College was Satan's field and that, for a JW, that meant spiritual death. Now we have to struggle with low paying jobs because of our lack of education, but we still have to be able to find a Monday-Friday 8-5 job in order not to miss a meeting or sacrifice our time in field service.