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  One more example......WBTS sells property owned by 90 year old after death

  by restrangled in

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  this may be covered some where in the archives here, but came across this today on the internet.. 90 year old anna bedford owner of one of the great camps of the adirondacks (preserve at green bay, 135 acres) dies and somehow the society becomes the owner.

  they sell for 2.250 million dollars in june of l988.. see the bottom of page 2. .

  link: http://nysdta.org/determinations/813952.det.pdf.

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  Well, the only way the Society became the owner of the property is that this lady put in on her will that she was giving out the property as an inheritance to the Society. After the Society becomes the owner then they dispose it however they want, if there isn't a family member that will dispute it. In any case if it was on her will it's theirs. What makes me wonder is that this lady probably left it for the Society, thinking that it was going to be put to good use, a Kingdom Hall or something like that, not that they would sell it. Who knows, maybe she thought that when she got resurrected she will be able to have her place back, I don't mean it in a disrespectful way. She was 90 years old, and those things cross their minds.

  That is what it's irritating about this, that her sole purpose was for them to use it in a good way, but not to go out and immediately sell it. That is disrespectful, if that is what really happened.
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  The Diary of an Armageddon Survivor

  by reneeisorym in

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  brother thorn told brother.

  i told him i didn't feel well.

  i told ed thorn that.

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  This post reminded me of a talk I heard many years ago. I don't remember the title but I think it had to do with 500 years after Armageddon or something like that. It started off on a right note, but all of sudden started getting very disturbing. The brother graphically, gave details about bodies scattered all around, and one of the brothers recognized one body by the watch he was wearing. It was a brother from his congregation. Then a few years into the "new system", in a meeting that was being held, a brother was remembering his son, that didn't survive, and blaming himself for not training him hard enough in the ways of the "truth".

  I could not believe my ears. I really thought I was the one hearing things. I had to tell my mom. I got out of that meeting feeling extremely depressed, but I didn't want to tell anybody how horrible I found that talk to be. I felt like that was the brother talking, because I couldn't believe that such discourse could have come from the Society.

  You have a vivid imagination, and to give credit to God I really don't think he would allow the "new system" to be like that. In the words of the Society: "Just wait on Jehovah", try not to ponder too much into how Paradise is going to be like." I really hope that the Bible is true when it says, that we will not be able to remember the things of the past. And I certainly hope that, if it is real, Jehovah will not make anybody pick up bodies after themselves. Although, that is some have taught it will be.
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  Irritable bowel syndrome and repressed emotions

  by Gregor in

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  according to a recent study, ibs is a condition that appears to be directly affected by personal circumstances that cause frustration and repressed emotions.

  the example given was of women who live under an authoritarian husband and are not allowed to express their feelings.

  i have a jw aunt who has suffered horribly from this miserable condition for years.

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  I've had the problem for about 10 years now. Exactly the time when I started feeling like I can't talk, walk, or do anything without feeling watched, or without having to respond to someone about my decisions and feelings. I get nervous, it hits me like a freight train. Now that I am inactive, I have felt better, still have the problem but less severe. Years ago I went to the doctor, and found nothing wrong with me. I've been depressed and all that is related. My depression is better too, by the way. This is a very common problem that a lot of people don't like to talk about, especially men. But it happens more than we know.
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  Hurricane Dean and JW's.

  by integ in

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  while the wtbs is no doubt scrambling about at bethel; frantically searching the scriptures in an effort to attach some prophetic meaning to this latest hurricane in the caribbean, and how it somhow relates to the importance of stepping it up in the ministry, how much time do you think they will spend on plans to help their fellowman?.

  i am sure we will all hear b.s such as " this just shows how we are in the last of the last of the last days".. but oh by the way, make plans for our international convention in 2009..

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  Hurricane Dean and JW's.

  by integ in

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  while the wtbs is no doubt scrambling about at bethel; frantically searching the scriptures in an effort to attach some prophetic meaning to this latest hurricane in the caribbean, and how it somhow relates to the importance of stepping it up in the ministry, how much time do you think they will spend on plans to help their fellowman?.

  i am sure we will all hear b.s such as " this just shows how we are in the last of the last of the last days".. but oh by the way, make plans for our international convention in 2009..

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  YEAP.
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  Need photocopy of 1967 WT, p. 262 on 1975

  by cabasilas in

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  i was listening to the lecture posted here by alphaomega and sinutko quotes the 1967 wt, p. 262 with a very strong quote about 75. i went to the wt's cd-rom and looked up the reference and it reads entirely differently.

  but, sinutko says he is quoting, not paraphrasing.. the transcript of the lecture has sinutko saying this:.

  "well, we dont have to guess what the year 1975 means if we read the watchtower.

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  I have the Spanish version of the most recent CD ROM and does not go any further back to 1970. I found an article entitled "THE 1,000 YEAR PEACE IS AT HAND OR IS APPROACHING" something like that, (REMEMBER I AM TRANSLATING), and gives a similar information. Back then the spanish speaking will receive the information like 4 - 6 months later than the english speaking so the date might not be the same. In spanish, the article came out in the April 1, 1970 Watchtower, maybe is the same, but look back 4-6 months and try to search for that article.

  I will try to translate to the best of my ability one paragrapah where it is suggested, almost openly said that the mid 1970's will be the time of the end.

  Paragraph 40

  Ya dentro de poco, seis milenios de su inicua explotación de la humanidad como esclavos suyos terminarán, dentro de la vida de la generación que ha presenciado los sucesos mundiales desde el fin de los Tiempos de los Gentiles en 1914 hasta ahora, conforme a las palabras proféticas de Jesús en Mateo 24:34. Bueno, pues, ¿no sería el fin de seis milenios de laboriosa esclavitud de la humanidad bajo Satanás el Diablo el tiempo apropiado para que Jehová Dios introdujera un milenio sabático para todas sus criaturas humanas? ¡Sí por cierto! Y su Rey Jesucristo será Señor de ese Sábado. (THE FIRST SENTENCE IS TALKING ABOUT SATAN)

  "SOON, 6,000 YEARS OF HIS WICKED EXPLOITATION OF HUMAN BEINGS AS HIS SLAVES WILL END, WITHIN THE LIFETIME OF THE GENERATION THAT WITNESSED THE WORLD EVENTS SINCE THE END OF THE GENTILE TIMES IN 1914 UNTIL NOW, ACCORDING TO THE PROPHETIC WORDS OF JESUS IN MATTHEW 24:34. WHY THEN, WOULDN'T THE END OF THE 6,000 YEARS OF HUMANKIND HARD SLAVERY UNDER SATAN THE DEVIL, BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR JEHOVAH GOD TO INTRODUCE A 1,000 YEAR SABBATH FOR ALL HIS HUMAN CREATURES? OF COURSE! AND HIS KING, CHRIST JESUS WILL BE LORD OF THE SABBATH."
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  Our Letter of Denunciation or 'Disassociation'

  by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit in

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  we have felt like we didn't need a letter, but suddenly we did, and it was liberating to write and send (multiple copies).. last para got biting and pointed, unfortunately, but facts are facts.

  august 14, 2007. .

  to whom it may concern:.

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  Someone please inform me as to why I have not gotten enthusiastic response

  by Shawn10538 in

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  ... from you jwd members, to my idea to bombard bethel with phone calls.

  it seems to me to be a very effective way to protest and i have had great experiences with it.

  i just can't understand the lackluster response from you all.

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  ... from you JWD members, to my idea to bombard bethel with phone calls. It seems to me to be a very effective way to protest and I have had great experiences with it. I just can't understand the lackluster response from you all.
  I will continue to post on this topic because I believe in its efficacy.

  I am sorry, I don't mean to offend or critizice your post, but, what is your purpose in wanting to call Bethel and protest. Protest what? and, by protesting do you think they are going to change years of teachings and beliefs that they wouldn't even admit teaching. I had reservations about the accuracy of some ex members regarding the 1975 issue. I thought that they were interpreting the Society's words about implying that that was a marked year. I did some research myself on the CD Rom and found an article where it is implied that 1975 could be the year. I did it myself and was convinced. However the Society has written articles on how some members were so desperate to see the end of this system that assumed that was the year to expect it. They didn't assume the responsibility that their publications led the crowd to believe it. So what is the point in protesting? And again, protesting to what, if you can give me more details?
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  ETERNITY BEFORE CREATION.....THE NON-EXISTENCE.....of GOD!

  by Terry in

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  2. bible

  before god began creating.......he wasn't a creator.. before god began creating.....there was nothing......and therefore nothing to know.. before god began creating...there was nothing and nothing to know....and therefore nothing to love.. before god began creating...he was alone with nothing to distinguish him from nothingness except--what?

  his mind?

  filled with what, actually?.

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  Hey Cindi

  How's it going? Been awhile, hope all is well.

  I read "A Brief History of Time" a long time ago. Good book, wouldn't mind rereading it actually.

  Take care.

  Hi Twitch:

  Everything going very well. How are you? Interesting subject this one isn't it? Love to talk about these things. I do believe that there is a God. It's just that to me he is still very far away, and I wonder what really is going through his mind about us humans. The Society makes him very loving and very demanding at the same time. When analizing all these, I think that there is a lot us humans do not understand about God, and therefore anything we think he is, he might not be. All these pagan religions, with all their gods, some of them very loving and some of them very violent and demanding are just a reflect of what religions have portrait God to be, and I think JW's are a little bit influenced by this beliefs as well, they just would not admit it. The Bible does give two faces of God. Why do we feel that the pagan religions have it all wrong about God, when even the Bible gives some disturbing accounts of God's rage from time to time? They might have gone too far, but their beliefs are based on tradition and word of mouth. They just over extended their imagination and split God into many gods, each one based on his personality and traits. I do not go as far as to believing he does not exist, but I do question they way we have been taught he is.
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  ETERNITY BEFORE CREATION.....THE NON-EXISTENCE.....of GOD!

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  before god began creating.......he wasn't a creator.. before god began creating.....there was nothing......and therefore nothing to know.. before god began creating...there was nothing and nothing to know....and therefore nothing to love.. before god began creating...he was alone with nothing to distinguish him from nothingness except--what?

  his mind?

  filled with what, actually?.

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  I agree with what another friend said here. Before starting to create there was no time. Time is the measure we use to explain our existence, but just like the Bible says, for God one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like one day, I understand then that, where he lives there is no time, he gave that analogy for us to understand his eternity.

  The famous physic Stephen Hawkins says that if a human could survive going through a Black Hole, he would be able to see time flying in front of his eyes, what would be one second for him would be thousands of years on earth, he would be able to see everything happening on earth like fast-forwarding a movie. Sounds creepy, doesn't it? He says there is not time inside a black hole. Too much information to grasp for us humans, and for us that are not geniuses, like me. My head starts to hurt if I put too much thought into these things.