Kinjiro said: "Is like having "theocratic shingles' (herpes watchtowerus)... it keeps popping oup when just least expect it... comes and goes in flares and the pain is always bad...
God I love the metaphores in here.
Cindi_67
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Do You Constantly Think About The Witnesses At This Point in Your Life?
by minimus ini was just talking to a guy who's been df'd for years and he still talks about things like it was yesterday in watchtowerland.. are you still consumed by your jw past?.
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Do You Constantly Think About The Witnesses At This Point in Your Life?
by minimus ini was just talking to a guy who's been df'd for years and he still talks about things like it was yesterday in watchtowerland.. are you still consumed by your jw past?.
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I do because I still have "ties" to it. My mom, sister and brother are very active. I can't seem to shake it off because my mom especially will be extremely hurt if I decide to go public with how I feel. The rest of them I don't care much. Just yesterday, my brother and sister in law decided to "disfacebookship" me, that is block me out of their friend's list on Facebook, because of a comment I made on a Facebook group my sister in law probably saw. Instead of making me feel sad, I get constantly irritated, aggravated, and furious against the Organization. The more they keep this Mind Control going, the worse I get.
They know I don't attend meetings but apparently, they thought this was just a face, and I would go back in the future, but when she saw this, she probably decided I have turned "apostate" and has shunned me entirely, to the point of having her son delete my children, his cousins, from his list too. Then she made a few phone calls and her brother has also deleted me. I feel like I want the whole damn world to know my feelings but the only person that keeps me from doing that is my mom. I know how she is going to get if I decide to disassociate, she is going to feel like I've died because she knows she won't be able to talk to me anymore. For the rest is "up yours", I don't care about what they think about me. If it wasn't for my mom, I'd probably had forgotten about it, and go on with my life.
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Did you really want to live forever?
by serenitynow! ineven when i was a kid i thought that forever was too long.
i thought it may get boring.
especially when they said we'd stop eating meat.
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By the way, THE JOKE WAS VERY FUNNY!!!!
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Did you really want to live forever?
by serenitynow! ineven when i was a kid i thought that forever was too long.
i thought it may get boring.
especially when they said we'd stop eating meat.
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I'm not going to tell you I want to die or not live for a long time, however, I do remember as a child, while I was laying in bed, thinking about eternity and I had a weird feeling of dread and fear. I can't explain it, I just did, and I just wanted to "change channels" and not think about it. Sometimes I start remembering a few scriptures and I start thinking that God wants to do with us what he wants to do. Who are we to him to keep us alive for eons and eons? JW's rely on the fact that we "will never stop learning new things, and that we will never get to know God, so life in Paradise will never be boring". Right now, I find that difficult to believe. Many couples are waiting to have children in Paradise, however, once the Earth "is filled" I guess God will miraculously make women and men sterile, otherwise we will have to find another "earth" to live in.
It is an issue that seems very fictional to me. I don't mean to disrespect God regarding his love for humans, but the proof is in the Bible, he decides what he wants to do, when he wants to do it and for how long. Keeping humans and this earth alive for millions and billions of years is somehow a little difficult for me to believe.
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Author Ann Rice says "she is no longer christian". I can relate.
by Cindi_67 inann rice author of interview with a vampire quits church and says she is no longer a christian.
what stroke me as familiar was her comment as to how she felt everytime she went to church.
she said, "i really couldn't go anymore.
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Ann Rice author of Interview with a vampire quits church and says she is no longer a christian. What stroke me as familiar was her comment as to how she felt everytime she went to church. She said, "I really couldn't go anymore. I was too angry, I was too confused. I was sitting in church, in a beautiful environment, with beautiful music, wanting to pray and I was too angry and too confused to be there. I had to leave. It was coming between me and God, to be in that church. And the church should be the place that helps you get close to God." "It's tragic, but when you find yourself lying for God, something's really wrong," she said. "And for me to go on saying that I was a Catholic and for me to go on being in that church, or in any church, really, worrying about what they teach and what they do socially and what they might do politically, et cetera, et cetera, that was lie. I can't do that."
Her statements are way too familiar for me because that is exactly how I felt when I was in the Organization, lying for God. Not wanting to be there, yet being emotionally forced to do so because "it is the right thing to do", it is "what you must do" if you want to survive God's pending Armaggedon. I couldn't handle the pressure anymore. Am I sad? In a way, yes. I am angry at the fact that I never got to choose my own path in life, that my life revolved around an Organization that plays with your emotions and your conscience and at the end you end up not pursuing your dreams or knowing how to make personal decisions without having to ask permission to your "Bible (Organization) trained conscience" regarding personal matters. In my case, it took many years before I finally said "enough" and I feel that many of the things I wanted or could accomplish are much more difficult now because of my age and my present status. I am sad, because I still feel spiritually lost, looking for a place to fit in. I don't fully believe in the Bible, I have lots of questions regarding God and his essence, his universal place and his interest in humans.
I'm sure many of you feel or felt the same. If you are new in this forum, are actively meeting and have the same feelings I do, meditate and consider your feelings without the help of the Organization's literature which will confuse you even more. Don't be a hipocrite, don't stay for the sake of others, because in the end it will end up hurting you and you will never find the happiness you are seeking.
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WOW!!! Just found out from someone who went to the one day assembly....
by Lady Liberty inhello friends... just found out that at the recent one day assembly they are now really discouraging people from getting married!!!!!
they will lose young ones like crazy if they start telling them that they cannot get married...what are these sexually frusterated young people to do??
you cannot masterbate, you cannot have sex outside of marriage (not that i would encourage it either, but...), now you cannot even get married?????
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Lilyflor wrote:
"i need to attend one of these things again, i could use a few good laughs, on the other hand I just might end up puking instead"
Good idea, although I don't know how long I would be able to sit through the whole charade. But we have to be witnesses to the insanity.
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AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS BECAUUUUSE.... Many of us don't even believe there is going to be a new system... and if so... we ARE NOT INVITED...lol
WHY SHOULD IT BOTHER US WHETHER THERE IS GOING TO BE DINOSAURS IN THE NEW SYSTEM. The Watchtower Society teaches we will live for all eternity... YES THERE WILL BE DINOUSAURS... US!!!!
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Scientology Down to 25,000 Members?
by cameo-d inhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/us/07scientology.html.
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it was all built on lies, mr. collbran said.
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This video is from a woman that got out of the "Sea Organization" which holds lots of similiarities with "Bethel". She explains her reasons for leaving on the Today Show and how that has affected her family life...
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I'M NEWLY CONVERTED TO SOME ASPECTS OF EVOLUTION, BUT COULD IT BE COMBINED WITH A CREATIVE FORCE?
by Life is now incould a creative force be the catalyst?.
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I think that both beliefs can be intermingled. For example, we all learned that the Universe could not have been created with the "Bing Bang" because explosions create chaos instead of organization. But what scientific back up does the Society have to deny this theory or to say it can't be possible? I think it could have been possible because this theory points to the idea that a huge explosion materiliazed all the necessary componenets of the Universe. God could have used what came out of the explosion to start creating the stars and planets and everything else. Regarding the evolution, I don't believe in it like the extremists evolutionists do, that we evolved from fishes or reptiles, but I do believe that some species evolve to adapt to their environment.
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Was the policy change to equate DA to DF because of Ray?
by teel inas ray says in the last chapter of coc, before 1981 da was quite different from df.
"persons who resigned were not treated the same as those disfellowshiped", they were not shunned for example, except when the dad person enters into politics or military.. i put it on account of humbleness that ray says he doesn't think they changed the policy just to use it against him, he probably feels he wasn't so significant as to warrant such a far-reaching change.
but it seems way too convenient that the policy change came at that exact time, too much of a coincidence.
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Cindi_67
When did the policy changed? I haven't heard of that...