i have a jw friend who i watch sports with.
his wife is not a dub.
he has a daughter from a previous marriage who is gay.
Hey, why do I need to denigrate Rush Limbaugh listeners? I thought listening to him was denigration in of itself?
All anyone has to do is listen to that crap. Don't be offended. Will any defender of "right wing" radio defend "Rush" specifically? Just curious.
i have a jw friend who i watch sports with.
his wife is not a dub.
he has a daughter from a previous marriage who is gay.
I have no problem with Fox News. They have the constitutionally protected right to make total asses of themselves with their nonesense.
Btw, I thought Bill o Really was going to ask Palin to marry him last week. I needed a shower after that. I have no problem with it though. It gives me something to do.
notice a few months ago, they correctly noted the title of the talk.
8/15/2009 page 16 paragraph 17, "from 1918 until 1925, the talk "millions now living will never die," which explained the hope of everlasting life on earth, was presented by jehovah'v servants in over 30 languaged worldwide.
(notice it doesn't say "jehovah's witnesses, but jehovah's servants, because they weren't called that then) by 1934, jehvoahs' witnesses......... .
I'll check back when they change it to "Millions Now Living Will Probably Die. Make That Billions."
watchtower study article jun 15th 2080 (direct retina scanned edition).
14...the watchtower of nov 15th 2037 brought out the increased light that the 144,000 of revelation should not be understood as a figurative number , but that the heavenly hope is open to all who wish to partake.
we rejoice that the number who profess such a hope has risen to over one million now , together with the over 35 million of the great crowd class.
Sorry, you inspired me and I can't help myself
How Do You React to New Light?
Par 18. At times, opposers and apostates like to point out that the way that the faithful and discreet slave (MT 24: 45-47) defines the word generation flies in the face of both English and Greek dictionaries, to say nothing of Spanish and Portugeese dictionaries. Should we care about the modern day apostate Judas class and their insistence on using words with proper meanings? Not if we support Jesus, Jehovah, and their faithful and discreet slave. (MT 24: 45-47)
Par 19. Clearly, dictionaries are fine, so long as they are used by Jehovah, Jesus, and the faithful and discreet slave. (MT 24: 45-47) However, our dear brothers and sisters stab themselves all over with many pains when they try to read dictionaries apart from the material printed by the faithful and discreet slave. (MT 24: 45-47) Often, this leads to sadness, lack of faith, hemmoroids, and shingles.
Par 20. The faithful and discreet slave (MT 24: 45-47) has taken great pains to invent new words that please Jehovah. Jehovah himself is well pleased when we ignore the real meaning of words and instead believe everything that is printed in the Watchtower, which is printed under the direction of the faithful and discreet slave. (MT 24: 45-47)
Par 21. "The Watchtower, Announcing Jehovah's Kingdom is Coming Someday" has been faithfully proclaiming the new light from Jehovah everytime Jehovah blesses the faithful and discreet slave (MT 24: 45-47) with new batteries for their flashlight. May we never push ahead of Jehovah and the faithful and discreet slave (MT 24: 45-47). It is Jehovah alone who has given the only celestial, spiritual flashlight availble to the group of men known as the faithful and discreet slave. (read MT 24: 45-47)
this week's installment in the science quotes of "celebrated jw scholars" concerns one of their perennial claims.
based on a literal reading of genesis 1:30, jehovah's witnesses believe and teach that all animals were orginally designed to be vegetarians and that the restoration prophecies of isaiah foretell a return to this state.
this has been stated many times in jw literature:.. .
In other words, they went ahead and propagated a claim as fact, only to learn that science doesn't back up their BS at all.
This was fascinating. Yup, meat eating animals who originally were only going to eat Caesers salad all their life had those big sharp teeth created by the almighty Jehovah to maul a radish. Gotta love the GB and their insightful, spirit directed, (not spirit inspired) research.
To a certain degree, I have embraced my inner @$$hole...
(insert punchline here_______________)
although a cult, jehovah's witnesses should not be underestimated as to their smarts.
sometimes, exiting jw's, due to indoctrination, feel a lot of guilt for leaving.
of course, the governing body wouldn't have it any other way.. upon leaving, many for the first time feel a freedom to express themselves, which is as it should be.
So I guess what I'm saying is that I disagree with you. Whatcha gonna do about it?
Beks, I'll take you down with me sista!! ;)
Ironically, this is an opinion piece about opinions, featuring my opinion. I wouldn't dare to argue beyond a certain point on this topic. I think it healthy to express opinion. I think it unhealthy to get upset about those who disagree with you. You know, unless they are holding a gun to your head. Then its ok to get upset a bit.
Open mind I think hit it perfectly. Some people (and cults) specialize in bullshit. Even though we all know JW's (specifically, the GB) is wrong where they stand, how many arguments have you seen them lose?
They don't lose. They just have an iron chin. They wait for the other person to wear down.
The only known antidote for this idiotic strategy is to pull out the paperback version of "Crisis of Conscience" with Ray Franz's name on it. It's kryptonite to a JW at the door. I remember the only time that happened to me, I thought Satan himself came out, scared the shit out of me.
Otherwise, don't expect to ever win an argument against a JW.
I think there comes a point where the motive of a debater/opinion provider has to be determined. I can share what I think, but truthfully, at the end of the day, if you disagree with me, my big head won't be crying in my big pillow all night.
Others want to win, or feel they win. It's just a matter of keeping the argument going long enough to give the appearance of a win. Arguments won on the rubble of facts are not wins for anyone of course. We all know this to be the truth. (if you think I kid, ask a JW about Jehovah's name in the New Testament. Fascinating where that goes...)
we all need to blow off steam.
ex-jw's come on here and post humor or read about john doe's trying out a vegetarian lifestyle.
that's all fine and cool.
Hear hear!
although a cult, jehovah's witnesses should not be underestimated as to their smarts.
sometimes, exiting jw's, due to indoctrination, feel a lot of guilt for leaving.
of course, the governing body wouldn't have it any other way.. upon leaving, many for the first time feel a freedom to express themselves, which is as it should be.
I have no problem with opinions. I find myself wondering if there is a difference between holding opinions (as we should) and being opinionated.
I am not suggesting we don't share what we feel or think. It's just that after a point, there comes a time when you have had your say, and you can either leave it for the record, or try to finish off your opponent.
although a cult, jehovah's witnesses should not be underestimated as to their smarts.
sometimes, exiting jw's, due to indoctrination, feel a lot of guilt for leaving.
of course, the governing body wouldn't have it any other way.. upon leaving, many for the first time feel a freedom to express themselves, which is as it should be.
Acolytes
JW's, and esp elders, should probably be argued with at every opportunity.
What I am referring to more is after that is done, what's next? Lets face it, we ex JW's probably have a skill we wish we didn't have, but its there. And we use it quite well.
I use it all the time at my job. Sometimes, I catch myself, and I hear myself say something, or I type an opinion here, and I stop myself. "Is that what I really think? What about the other point of view? Are they really right, or just emotional? Am I right, or am I being pissy?"
Winning arguments, or having strong opinions, doesn't necessarily = quality of life.
To quote William Yeats "All empty souls tend toward extreme opinions."
or
"When men exercise their reason coolly and freely on a variety of distinct questions, they inevitably fall into different opinions on some of them. When they are governed by a common passion, their opinions, if they are to be called, will be the same." - Alexander Hamilton
"The recipe for perpetual ignorance is: be satisfied with your opinions and content with your knowledge." Elbert Hubbard
"There is no greater mistake than the hasty conclusion that opinions are worthless because they are badly argued." Thomas H. Huxley
Good stuff.... :)
