They will likely over time change what it means, but they would have to destroy 80+ years of written material to try and pretend it never happened. 1914 will always be there. How the GB will teach it over the next decade is what will change. Expect more new light as the GB gets a new package of batteries for their flashlight.
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1914 - Soon to be Forgotten
by God_Delusion inso then, we come to the topic of 1914, again.. a lot of us on here have said it, and so i decided to write about it.. http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/2010/01/1914-soon-to-be-forgotten.html.
cheers,.
carlos.
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A Sliver of Poetic Justice
by leec inhttp://laughingsquid.com/san-franciscos-answer-to-westboro-baptist-church/.
san franciscos answer to westboro baptist churchby ed hunsinger on january 29, 2010 comments (6).
photo by edw lynch.
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AWESOME!
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 01-31-10 WT Study (GOOD MANNERS)
by blondie inson.. comments.
comments.
ministry.. comments.
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The entire sub theme of this article is "It's bad manners to not listen to the Governing Body."
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If You Really Want to Bring Down Jehovah's Witnesses (for your peace of mind)
by AllTimeJeff inget them to think.. do you have loved ones?
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I guess I'm the exception here, but I don't want to bring down the Jehovah's Witnesses.
I agree. I think it a waste of time to think of it in terms like this. My point was simply, you aren't going to bring down the group known as Jehovah's Witnesses, but there are individual Jehovah's Witnesses that can, and will leave, esp if they have ideas and the opportunity to think. To be as individuals.
Some people are fooled, some people allow themselves to be fooled, and the rest are just fools.
The GB is counting on a steady influx of prejudiced fools for their future. The people they are currently fooling, they aren't to sure they can keep. With good reason.
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If You Really Want to Bring Down Jehovah's Witnesses (for your peace of mind)
by AllTimeJeff inget them to think.. do you have loved ones?
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Palmtree, I am a big fan of Flamenco. Enjoy your wedding! You have done enough thinking to get you where you are! I envy you. Congratulations!
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Jehovah's Witnesses and Calvinistic Predestination
by AllTimeJeff inthis is a complex question, and i just want to get a discussion started on the message of jehovah's witnesses and how it relates to their adventist roots, and esp calvinism.. bear with me, i will try to be concise.. we all know that while jehovah's witnesses like to deny adventist roots, that it is clear that according to them, the man jesus selected to get the whole thing started, c t russell, was heavily influenced by adventist ideas, esp the (adventist) idea that has really never left them; the idea that somehow, a time date or period can be inferred from the bible if you read certain scriptures through an adventist lens.
(thus, the 2520 years, 7 gentile times, etc.).
so while this is relatively well known, there is a concept that jehovah's witnesses teach against, yet practice.
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I got that Paul. It is interesting to ponder what that means. One thing I feel certain Paul, you aren't evil, you weren't meant for destruction. That is just one religions convenient way to control its members. And obviously, its not like JW's were clever enough to come up with this on their own. They are just one of the latest to teach doctrines that cheapen lives for their own benefit.
The only thing to do is recognize the value of your own life, and that your future is truly in your hands. That to me is an exciting prospect.
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If You Really Want to Bring Down Jehovah's Witnesses (for your peace of mind)
by AllTimeJeff inget them to think.. do you have loved ones?
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Palmtree, they are Stepford all the way. Anyone turning off their brain, or worse, letting a WT do your thinking for you, is bound to induce staring straight ahead for long periods of time.
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Jehovah's Witnesses and Calvinistic Predestination
by AllTimeJeff inthis is a complex question, and i just want to get a discussion started on the message of jehovah's witnesses and how it relates to their adventist roots, and esp calvinism.. bear with me, i will try to be concise.. we all know that while jehovah's witnesses like to deny adventist roots, that it is clear that according to them, the man jesus selected to get the whole thing started, c t russell, was heavily influenced by adventist ideas, esp the (adventist) idea that has really never left them; the idea that somehow, a time date or period can be inferred from the bible if you read certain scriptures through an adventist lens.
(thus, the 2520 years, 7 gentile times, etc.).
so while this is relatively well known, there is a concept that jehovah's witnesses teach against, yet practice.
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It's all bullshit.
Thats pretty much my conclusion as well.
The ideas revolving around prophecy and predestination cheapen lives. Someone had to kill the Archduke Ferdinand, to start a war on earth that according to JW dogma, already started in heaven.
Did these people not have a choice, or was Jehovah telling Satan "Check"?
So lives can be ruined. Lives can not matter. The only ones that matter are those that "Jehovah" picks.
So if you didn't take that colorful Watchtower from that 7 year old girl and her mother last week, and that was your only shot at ever listening to JW's ever due to your work schedule, you are screwed. Because you rejected the message of Jehovah, via that cool Watchtower with a Panda eating a bamboo milkshake.
Yup. Life is cheap where predestination is concerned.
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If You Really Want to Bring Down Jehovah's Witnesses (for your peace of mind)
by AllTimeJeff inget them to think.. do you have loved ones?
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No, you're right. The cult, and other cults, will always exist for those who just can't think for themselves.
It is easier to think though when information is more readily available. Thank goodness for Google, and its ugly redheaded step child, Bing!
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If You Really Want to Bring Down Jehovah's Witnesses (for your peace of mind)
by AllTimeJeff inget them to think.. do you have loved ones?
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Not if you point out that someone who underlines and comments at a WT study is considered more spritual then a humble, "Christlike" person. That always resonated with me. And there are JW's within who strongly believe that those who pioneer and underline their WT's but are otherwise cruel and @$$hole like are not as much a servant of god as those who strive to act spiritual.....
Those are the ones who I like to call "NEXT"! As in, the next to leave the cult.