the 6th and final season of lost has been jam-packed with "reveals"!.
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what is the secret of the island?.
In my opinion, there was a clear effort by the creators to give everyone an ending that most people would relate to. (even if they might now agree with it)
Thus, the Christian symbolism, ending in church, in heaven. I mean, they couldn't have done it it Buddhist style since their target audience is here in the United States.
wtf???!!!.
they are all fucking dead!.
I think that the last episode was first and foremost a nod to the hardcore fans. The show wasn't about the island. It was about the people. In the end, the Island was a backdrop to some interesting people put in an unusual circumstance, and it allowed some great human drama to be played out.
This was a show that mastered the backstory as a way of storytelling. You saw where they were, and those little backstories was what caught everyones attention. What made them LOST wasn't that they were stranded on the island. They were already LOST. The island became a metaphor (imo) for something that relatively few it seems are succesful at; the need for introspection. Being stranded allowed everyone to behave to either their lowest (Ben) or highest (Locke) denominator. It allowed them to be who they really were and to reflect on their past, to have a showdown with themselves, to look in the mirror and ask "Is that who I was? Is this who I am? Is this what I want the rest of my life to be about?"
The Island gave us all that we needed to fill in the blanks, myths and legends, good and evil, fear and doubt, faith vs logic. Love vs fear. (the love vs fear angle, which I admit is my rorshach test, was always very compelling to me, summed up best by Locke)
I kept up with it somewhat, but I lost track of LOST shortly after I left the cult. (only one set of myths to figure out at a time) I am going to rewatch from episode one. For me, the show was actually simple. I never got why people tried to "figure out" the nuances, like the island, and all the bad guys and time morphs. Imo, it was all a device to tell simple human stories of LOST people. To me, the final episode validated that for me more then anything.
knowing that passions run deep on this matter, i have what i believe to be a very simple premise for a discussion of how to read the bible.. terry has labored over the last couple of months to demonstrate (in my view, conclusively) that the bible is far from unaltered, and often mistranslated.
these facts, inconvenient as they might be for believers, are nonetheless, a problem for those who claim that the bible is the word of god.. this is not what i wish to discuss... rather..... jehovah's witnesses come from a tradition of "reading in" or "adding meaning" to the scriptures.
no one jw outside of the governing body is allowed to do this.. but why is it necesarry?.
Good discussion, as always, I think everyones comments speak for themselves.
TD summarized my views on this.
Taking the Bible literally does not mean ignoring literary devices. When Jesus told Peter to, "..feed my sheep" he obviously was not talking about ungulates in the genus Ovis.
There are very clear literary devices in the words attributed to Jesus, but in most cases, they are easily born out in the context or comments. When Jesus spoke of sheep or leaven, then it was clear what he was saying.
Leolaia also makes a great point, and for whatever reason, it is a point that those who WANT to believe that the bible is a unified message will not look at. The simple evidence is, what we call the bible, is actually a collection of letters written at a specific time and about a specific people. There is nothing unified about the book or "the message."
In short being literal doesn't mean ignoring clearly stated allegories and metaphors within the writings.
My point is simple: To me, if you are the least bit intellectually honest, then you have as much ability to make conclusions about the message of the bible as any theologian. Read it literally, ask the obvious questions, and accept the obvious answers.
knowing that passions run deep on this matter, i have what i believe to be a very simple premise for a discussion of how to read the bible.. terry has labored over the last couple of months to demonstrate (in my view, conclusively) that the bible is far from unaltered, and often mistranslated.
these facts, inconvenient as they might be for believers, are nonetheless, a problem for those who claim that the bible is the word of god.. this is not what i wish to discuss... rather..... jehovah's witnesses come from a tradition of "reading in" or "adding meaning" to the scriptures.
no one jw outside of the governing body is allowed to do this.. but why is it necesarry?.
Hey there notverylikely. Yup, thats the point. Literal reading prevents twisting of scripture, which equals not being misled by those who do interpret twist the scripture.
be sure to watch the entire clip.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vuishm5kaq.
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be sure to watch the entire clip.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vuishm5kaq.
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Sorry, I am laughing my ass off right now...
be sure to watch the entire clip.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vuishm5kaq.
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be sure to watch the entire clip.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vuishm5kaq.
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knowing that passions run deep on this matter, i have what i believe to be a very simple premise for a discussion of how to read the bible.. terry has labored over the last couple of months to demonstrate (in my view, conclusively) that the bible is far from unaltered, and often mistranslated.
these facts, inconvenient as they might be for believers, are nonetheless, a problem for those who claim that the bible is the word of god.. this is not what i wish to discuss... rather..... jehovah's witnesses come from a tradition of "reading in" or "adding meaning" to the scriptures.
no one jw outside of the governing body is allowed to do this.. but why is it necesarry?.
So, if some person on the street randomly asked you to read a book he wrote where he talks about a man on earth being caught up into heaven, would you take him seriously?
Anyway.....
be sure to watch the entire clip.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vuishm5kaq.
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Awesome!
