Hey Paul. Some times are made to thrive, and others to survive. This is the time to take pride in every day you survive. There will be other times for you to make some money and progress. Don't discount that. Not too many are thriving right now.... Peace to you my friend.
AllTimeJeff
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I'm dying here in Cleveland
by paul from cleveland inthis economy is killing me.
many sleepless nights..
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The trouble with fading as your leaving strategy
by eyesthatsee inwhatever your chosen strategy for leaving jws, the fundamental truth is that there is no clean / simple exit.
the mind control, the manipulation of normal family relationships etc will make any strategy very difficult at times.
the key issue is to know this ahead of time and be prepared, as best you can.. we've all chosen leaving strategies acording to our personal circumstances, preferences and learning from others.
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I used to feel this way. I think it important to mention here that faders fade for one simple reason: to bypass via that small "loophole" that exists so that they can still associate with family and friends.
Otherwise, I can't think of a good reason to fade.
The consequences of leaving is the one thing that the GB still has, to be able to keep loved ones away from you as punishment for ever leaving the group.
I didn't fade, and I have discussed here many times the wisdom of fading. At first, I didn't understand, but over the years, I realize why those that fade do, and I applaud them.
I agree that fading has many disadvantages, and I think in fairness, one thing shouldn't be overlooked. In order to gain your family and friends, you do have to live an incongruent life, and play their game a bit. Even if it is playing it against them.
Having said that, the blowing up the bridge method that I and others took by resigning has its own consequences, and they shouldn't be minimized....
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Understanding JW Recruiting Concepts Can Help Others To Leave
by AllTimeJeff inunderstanding jw recruiting concepts can help others to leave.
when i first left jehovah's witnesses (jw's), i was somewhat amused at the sheer amount of anti jw websites out there.
while websites like freeminds.org and jwfacts.com are great, (non hysterical sites that stress fact and presentation over emotional responses), there are at least 5 times as many other sites that act as if you should treat a jw at your door like you would a spreader of the ebola virus.. i don't disagree with the fact that jw's are somewhat dangerous and usually go for the low hanging fruit.
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AllTimeJeff
Hi hatchetmom! Welcome. Glad you avoided the sickness!
Shamus, anytime I use absolutes thoughtlessly, well, I get ashamed.... :) Good call. You are right of course, it isn't the only way. My point though is simply that for most JW's, the water is there. They know that "information" exists about their religion and that they are forbidden to look at it. They are curious. But they snuff out the curiosity.
So most who leave (as opposed to being kicked out) go to a place called factual information. That place has never changed, and never will. It's all history, and the only thing one has to do is read it with an open mind.
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Open season on me
by leec ini'm inviting anyone to tell me what's wrong with me, what they don't like, what i suck at, where i start to fail, where i get off, and like that.
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... and yes, i will take silence as a sign i am a pretty great person after all :p.
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AllTimeJeff
Lets see, you are a leec with a lobster for an avatar, you are a former JW who likely has issues, Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries.
I hope I didn't leave anything out.
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Colors.... The difference between Girls and Guys
by Elsewhere inhttp://www.thedoghousediaries.com/?p=1406.
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Oh, I get it... I read the right hand side of the column.
Time for me to exit stage right.
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Colors.... The difference between Girls and Guys
by Elsewhere inhttp://www.thedoghousediaries.com/?p=1406.
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AllTimeJeff
What the hell is this about again?
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AllTimeJeff
I am an American, Pen fan whose favorite player is Sid Crosby.
I won no matter what.
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Do you not know?
by Barbra indo you not know that they teach wrong doctrine?.
i hope you do i pray you do!
it's brainwash on so many lvls.
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AllTimeJeff
Yes, I know that they teach wrong doctrine. Thanks anyway.
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Hey, we will always have Lake Placid in 1980. It's appropriate for Canada that it happen this way......
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Is Richard Dawkins an ostentatious acrimonious supercilious pusillanimous calumnious censorious vituperative querulous embittered obsessive and bombastic bully?
by slimboyfat inrichard dawkins closes down his free-thinking/free-thought site (www.richarddawkins.net) for 30 days to reconfigure it 'because too many morons were contributing drivel' (he doesn't put it quite like that!
) he is then surprised because those self-same contributors call him everything under the sun (i won't repeat the names flung at him on our ultra -refined boards).
he now wants the site more or less 'peer-reviewed' (by analogy with papers to learned/scientific journals having to be vetted by vips).
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AllTimeJeff
50 years ago some Scientists were acting as if they were God. 90% of what they taught then has now been proved untrue.
With all respect, this is an ignorant statement. Science has no vested interest in staying with a theory that has been proven false. Unlike religion.