then 1 thessalonians 5 read about 'peace and security'.
the speakers instructed not to embellish the statements.. 'noble sentiments' was mentioned about the un charter but no criticism.. followed by the need for god's kingdom.. it sounded more like an advert for the un to me.
did anyone else hear it?
There is no uniform effort for JW's to identify themselves with the UN, that is for sure. The UN would not require them to support them in their talks.
The GB has shot itself in the foot enough with their involvement as an NGO. And yes, to get that, they have sure backed off their anti UN rhetoric, but that is about as clear as it has been....
some atheists like to use the analogy of religion being like a "crutch.".
dr. david eller suggests, below, that this is a poor analogy.
in my own, limited experience, his words ring true.
I have given thought to that analogy, and I think it is disrespectful. It is an opinion, and I have seen cogent arguements made in the case of individuals, but to apply it to all theists doesn't aid in the discussion. If one is interested in having a discussion that is.....
christ's true followers (5).
true christians (3).
(matt.
Here's a pearl of truth for you: You are either a troll, or a disobedient JW. For your sake, I hope you are a disobedient JW, because there is hope for you.
Now, if you will excuse me, I have some hockey to watch.
christ's true followers (5).
true christians (3).
(matt.
At least we know where the pig is.
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i'm one of the few jws that freely admit our faults and mistakes.. let's compare notes!.
Let me make this easy: Would you be willing to admit that the Governing Body has purposely misrepresented previous propheicies that have proven false, as well as the histories of Russell and Rutherford?
If you think they have been 100% honest, then we have nothing further to discuss.
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i'm one of the few jws that freely admit our faults and mistakes.. let's compare notes!.
Are you saying you know better then those who have been both lied to and mistreated by Jehovah's Witnesses?
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i'm one of the few jws that freely admit our faults and mistakes.. let's compare notes!.
I bet MadJW would say that if you are upset, it is because he has hit a nerve.
So do gunshot wounds from 5 feet.
MadJWs one goal here is to upset who he can, and to have something to do. Esp since masturbation can only last so long.
To any former JW's still raw over their experience, there is no need to indulge someone who calls you names in the hopes that your responses will validate his cruel, narcissistic existence.
Watch, he will call me a name, say something about how superior he is, or his religion, and then hope I respond.
My only concern about this poor excuse for a tick is that some people here, due to their mistreatment by JW's, will relive those emotions, and take it by feeding this flea bitten amobea your energy.
Don't do it.
If he wants to discuss JW dogma and theology, thats one thing. But just look at this intellectual contributions to anything on this board, on any subject...
(get back to me if you fine one cogent arguement)
So, just ignore this guy. He is a waste of oxygen. Spend it on yourself.
Believe me, lurking JW's who are still in with doubts, who read this guys drooling, are more inclined to leave then stay. So don't sweat his crap.
i have to say that i love music!
i love 60s to present r &b, soul, funk and many top 40 songs.
i think that even if i'm tired or down a bit, music picks me up!.
Family assumed (but not assurred in my JW family) it would be sports and a good beer, with the occasional scotch once or twice a year.
Reading. Learning. Winning.
christ's true followers (5).
true christians (3).
(matt.
Like all JW's, MadJW comes here every so often, knocks on our collective "door" here, looking for validation for their poor decision to become or stay on as a JW.
My door has been knocked.
My response is "I am not interested. I have read your shit before."
Closing the door now, getting back to the rest of my day.
christ's true followers (5).
true christians (3).
(matt.
MadJW,
I don't get it. You call "us" losers. That's Christlike? Or is it your use of "sarcasm". Is that Christlike.
No, it isn't.
So if you have a clean conscience, you also have a warped one. Oh, I am sorry, that would be what JW's call "a bible trained conscience."
(that was sarcasm too.)
Maybe I do know you. Are you on the Governing Body?
