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  Saturday Night Live sucks these days but...

  by JimmyPage in

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  ... i think i'll watch anyway when betty white hosts may 8..

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  Ever notice that outside of Kristan Wiig, no other female on that show is funny?

  It's the time of the guys right now. The late 90's were owned by the ladies. I think Bill Hader is hillarious.
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  LOVE your ENEMIES: where Jesus goes wrong

  by Terry in

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  matthew 5:44 "but i say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,.

  luke 6:35 "but love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return.

  the most radical teaching attributed to jesus has implications if followed.. an invading hoarde of mongols would not be resisted.. a christian husband would not only allow his wife and daughters to be raped; he would be compelled to forgive the rapist, pray for him and offer.

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  I agree that this is one teaching attributed to Jesus that is frequently incongruent with common sense.

  The likelihood that a Christians love would stop an angry radical Muslim wanting to kill you, and also cause them to worship Christ (wouldn't that be the point, to save your enemy by directing them toward Christ?) is approx 1 in 1,000,000,000,000 (someone stop me)

  Good points as always Terry.
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  How Can Jehovah's Witnesses Take Themselves So Seriously?

  by minimus in

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  i don't get it.. they're wrong about almost everything they say.

  they flip-flop on dates, chronology, prophecy, bible understandings.........

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  Because even when you are wrong, the only way to be taken seriously is to take yourself seriously.
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  "Don't Ever Come To My House Again"...says the householder!

  by mentallyfree31 in

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  since i have woken up from the horrible wt nightmare 5 months ago, i have had a chance to reflect on things that have happened over 25 years.

  one of the things i keep thinking about is householders in the field that would become furious upon seeing me and say rudely "get out of here and don't ever come back to my house again!".

  it always struck me as such an awful thing to say.

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  They could be anywhere from former JW's to those that are aware of the danger of cults. Maybe they were hoping their rudeness would sort of snap you out of it?

  I think anyone who says that knows enough about JW's to see the potential dangers and listen, who in their right, educated mind, would want to invite trouble into their home?
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  Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses is a Negative, Depressing Thing To Do, but....

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  over the years since i left jehovahs witnesses, one of the more fascinating things to observe, and really to me, the most important, is what to do after you leave.. to be sure, no one leaves because of a positive experience.

  and therein lies the issues with leaving.

  basically, people leave in three general ways: 1. they, like myself, resign or leave due to a disagreement.

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  Lieu, you didn't read my blog. The ACT of leaving IS negative. And if you don't deal with the issues that being a JW created, it will STAY negative.

  If you are a part of that happy minority that skipped away in a field of daisy's, then I congratulate you. I doubt most had that experience.
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  Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses is a Negative, Depressing Thing To Do, but....

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  2. beliefs

  over the years since i left jehovahs witnesses, one of the more fascinating things to observe, and really to me, the most important, is what to do after you leave.. to be sure, no one leaves because of a positive experience.

  and therein lies the issues with leaving.

  basically, people leave in three general ways: 1. they, like myself, resign or leave due to a disagreement.

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  Sure it started negitive with a bucket load of guilt and shame.

  Exactly. It STARTS negative. And when you are in that first stage, it is very difficult to see things getting better. Or, to put it more directly, to know how to make it better, to get to good.

  Aussie, many (not all) go through what you did, and because it takes years, it can be discouraging. I think one value that this board and other internet resources can provide is to validate all emotions. I truly believe that while initial anger is necesarry to leave, to keep it is bad for you in the long run. The fact is, many former JW's in the internet world anyway, are still angry. That is their perrogative, esp if they have just left. But I think that for good mental health (with apologies to Frazier) there has to be a point, after some years, where the depression and anger is dealt with. It is my opinion that if you are still so upset that it affects a part of your day years after your exit, then it might be good to try to get some kind of therapy. I mean that. That is part of the healing is to finally leave the negative emotions behind.

  I agree with some of the other posters that there is more than 3 ways to leave. There are those of us that that were born-ins that left before we were baptized.

  I know. Sometimes when I write, I purposely generalize. I admit there are many more, but in general, that is what I observed. It's impossible to touch on every situation that exists.

  The point of it is (with the attempted ironic title of my blog) that the negative can and does become a positive. There are some things you can do that could hurt you as you make your exit and navigate toward your new life. You are right, being a JW for most is a negative. Now, having said that, some get their jollys being a JW. I wish them the best, and will tell them I am not interested the next time they come to my door, just like most everyone does.
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  For the parents out there: "Hey Mom, Come See The Kittens!"

  by Elsewhere in

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  http://i.imgur.com/gm1da.jpg.

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  One more reason to stay out of Alabama.
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  Furor grows over Arizona's illegal immigration law

  by Sam Whiskey in

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  what am i missing?

  why are the illegal immigrants demanding their rights?

  they're illegal, they don't have the rights of an american citizen because they are not citizens.

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  Yeah, this thread is as doomed as a Sarah Palin Presidential run.

  
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  Furor grows over Arizona's illegal immigration law

  by Sam Whiskey in

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  what am i missing?

  why are the illegal immigrants demanding their rights?

  they're illegal, they don't have the rights of an american citizen because they are not citizens.

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  Shamus, in one hand, I have a copy of Arizona's law, and in the other, a tazer.

  I have kissed you before monkey, its slobbery, sort of smells like a banana milkshake, and makes me feel like I have bathed at a downtown Dairy Queen.

  Papers!
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  UPDATE: its over

  by WuzLovesDubs in

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  my brother in law left us and went to his heaven to be with his dad today at 1:20pm pacific.

  it took his strong body almost two days to give up its fight.

  now we can move on..... his daughter is due to have a new baby on may 20th....a very sad and very happy time and the continuation of life..

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  I am working, not on the meaning of death, but how we and our families can take the gifts our departed loved ones have given us to add to ourselves and our families.

  I send my deepest condolances, and wish you and your family comfort, healing, and joy as new life is experienced.