Btw, I use the Catholic Church as my main example, and I acknowledge in this case that it isn't fair to not include other religions as well. ALL should have honest acknowledgment of their past.
AllTimeJeff
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If JW's Should Be Accountable For Their Sordid History.....
by AllTimeJeff in....shouldn't christian religions of all persuasions be accountable as well?.
if this is insulting, it isn't meant to be.
former jw's all the time come here on this forum and others to hold the governing body accountable for teaching lies and holding on to a history, a tradition if you will, that embraces leaders like c t russell and j f rutherford, both of whom taught things that are almost entirely rejected by jw's today.
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If JW's Should Be Accountable For Their Sordid History.....
by AllTimeJeff in....shouldn't christian religions of all persuasions be accountable as well?.
if this is insulting, it isn't meant to be.
former jw's all the time come here on this forum and others to hold the governing body accountable for teaching lies and holding on to a history, a tradition if you will, that embraces leaders like c t russell and j f rutherford, both of whom taught things that are almost entirely rejected by jw's today.
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AllTimeJeff
Double post. Double dribble. Double vision....
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Theological Arguments, Human Realities
by AllTimeJeff inas i have sunken to a new low in condescending posts (according to botchtowersociety, who truthfully is an expert on all things bullshit), it did occur to me that discussions, debates, and mud slinging insult matches on this board often have a common root.. let me put out there that i am not an atheist, nor an agnostic.
frankly, i respect your right to believe that god is a trinity.
that he is jesus.
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AllTimeJeff
Duly noted BTS.
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If JW's Should Be Accountable For Their Sordid History.....
by AllTimeJeff in....shouldn't christian religions of all persuasions be accountable as well?.
if this is insulting, it isn't meant to be.
former jw's all the time come here on this forum and others to hold the governing body accountable for teaching lies and holding on to a history, a tradition if you will, that embraces leaders like c t russell and j f rutherford, both of whom taught things that are almost entirely rejected by jw's today.
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AllTimeJeff
Shamus, I agree with you on that score.
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If JW's Should Be Accountable For Their Sordid History.....
by AllTimeJeff in....shouldn't christian religions of all persuasions be accountable as well?.
if this is insulting, it isn't meant to be.
former jw's all the time come here on this forum and others to hold the governing body accountable for teaching lies and holding on to a history, a tradition if you will, that embraces leaders like c t russell and j f rutherford, both of whom taught things that are almost entirely rejected by jw's today.
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AllTimeJeff
I think that the realization that religions morph with their times, while on the one hand dis-crediting the argument that a religion is superior or "the truth", actually adds value to religion today.
Because religions must bow to the whims of the culture they find themselves in, religions today are more frequently tolerant of gays, equality to women, etc. in our western world.
I think that is a positive development, even if it also shows that their is no one superior truth to be found within any one religious theory.
Now, I will happily allow that there ARE many roads. That is cool. I just wish we could get passed this idea that there is only one road, one way to worship and have faith that trumps others.
Holding religions accountable for ALL their history demonstrates that there are many roads, and many reasons to be humble about one's faith.
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If JW's Should Be Accountable For Their Sordid History.....
by AllTimeJeff in....shouldn't christian religions of all persuasions be accountable as well?.
if this is insulting, it isn't meant to be.
former jw's all the time come here on this forum and others to hold the governing body accountable for teaching lies and holding on to a history, a tradition if you will, that embraces leaders like c t russell and j f rutherford, both of whom taught things that are almost entirely rejected by jw's today.
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AllTimeJeff
I agree Shamus that religions morph with the cultural sensibilities of their times. That makes sense.
At the same time, because the Church changed, yet still claims supremecy thanks to "holy tradition", it makes sense to me that the church be held to the same standard we would hold the Governing Body.
To the Catholic Church's credit, they finally changed their mind on Galileo... a few years ago.
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If JW's Should Be Accountable For Their Sordid History.....
by AllTimeJeff in....shouldn't christian religions of all persuasions be accountable as well?.
if this is insulting, it isn't meant to be.
former jw's all the time come here on this forum and others to hold the governing body accountable for teaching lies and holding on to a history, a tradition if you will, that embraces leaders like c t russell and j f rutherford, both of whom taught things that are almost entirely rejected by jw's today.
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AllTimeJeff
It isn't about rating which religion is worse. It's about being honest.
If we are willing to discuss the history of one religion and demand accountability, we should apply the same standard to all.
That is my main point.
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Selective Memory
by EmptyInside ini don't know if this is the case with everyone.
but,most jehovah's witnesses i know seem to have selective memory.
they will deny straight to your face that in 1995 ,the generation, was explained to be the wicked contemporaries.
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AllTimeJeff
Welcome to Orwell's world.
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If JW's Should Be Accountable For Their Sordid History.....
by AllTimeJeff in....shouldn't christian religions of all persuasions be accountable as well?.
if this is insulting, it isn't meant to be.
former jw's all the time come here on this forum and others to hold the governing body accountable for teaching lies and holding on to a history, a tradition if you will, that embraces leaders like c t russell and j f rutherford, both of whom taught things that are almost entirely rejected by jw's today.
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AllTimeJeff
Exactly Shamus. You got my point EXACTLY!
There's a kiss for trying anyway.....
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Fav Movie Directors, do U have one?
by talesin insecond attempt here,.
let me know your favs... :d .
i love to watch flicks, and whether they are famous or obscure, would love to see your favs (exception, i don't watch zombie films, sorry, except for bodysnatchers).. .
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AllTimeJeff
Copolla, for the Godfather movies alone.
Scorcese rarely misses.
I think Steven Soderbergh is very underrated.