Posts by Xirian

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Attorney EXJW SUES K-HALL for HER OWN RAPE

by DannyHaszard in

suit claims years of abuse by father vote and add comment.

victorville daily press, ca - 8 minutes ago.

there was no corroborative witness to the sexual abuse, so the crimes against children unit could not recommend to the district attorneys office to press .... suit claims years of abuse by fatherryan orr2007-04-28 00:02:00apple valley a former apple valley resident has filed a lawsuit alleging sexual abuse against the apple valley cheyenne kingdom hall of jehovahs witnesses, which is named in the complaint as roe, and her biological father, a church minister.

Xirian

I believe that the father (John Doe) is the ONLY one that should be held responsible for his actions. Just because this person was raised in a Jehovah's Witness environment, doesn't mean that the Jehovah's Witness congregation is to blame for the actions of one of it's members, in his own home, on his own time.

They are not the keepers of the adults or the keeper of that particular adult's children, but only a group that has views that are different from other groups, many which I do not agree with. And yes there are many cases of JWs related to child abuse, but this case doesn't fit the profile of the entire congregation being sued, as far as the information that we have to go on. The congregation did not abuse this woman. Just because they weren't there for her, doesn't mean they condoned this type of behavior. How do we even know she even went to the Jehovah's Witnesses for help? Why is the congregation being sued? Why can't we just prosecute the person who is liable and not everyone that happens to cross that person's path?

~Xirian~

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PROOF THIS JW Religion COULD BE THE TRUE RELIGION

by Dark_Princess in

well in the bible it says said by jesus christ himself... that "the true religion will be the relgion everyone despises and hates.".

is this not the relgion of jehovahs witnesses?..

look in the bible itself it says in john 15:18-19. jesus says, "if the world hates you, you know it has hated me before it has hated you.

Xirian

I think you are right.

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PROOF THIS JW Religion COULD BE THE TRUE RELIGION

by Dark_Princess in

well in the bible it says said by jesus christ himself... that "the true religion will be the relgion everyone despises and hates.".

is this not the relgion of jehovahs witnesses?..

look in the bible itself it says in john 15:18-19. jesus says, "if the world hates you, you know it has hated me before it has hated you.

Xirian

Dear Admin:

I have looked through the rules and didn't find anything about posting my personal private messages on the forum. If there is such a rule, please notify me and I'll modify my post accordingly.

Xirian wrote:

PROOF THIS JW Religion COULD BE THE TRUE RELIGION
Does anyone else see the logical fallicy in this statement. Proof that the religon could be the true religion. Either it is the truth and can be proven. Or it is not the true religion and can't be proven.
I think you might want to work on your debating or logic skills first and foremost. I do not understand why people continue to use publications from the very thing they are trying to understand or prove to someone else and expect that person not to see through it. If you're going to try to prove something to me, you will have to step outside of the box you're in and prove it from another angle and with many more sources than you've quoted here. You're using circular logic here. You simply cannot make a valid case if you only use one source, in this case, the Jehovah's Witness publications and the Bible. Find another way to prove your point that something could be true.

Dark_Princess wrote:

First of All...

OK first of all. My Father Put THat. "Proof this could be the true religion" he is on my account at times.
Believe me if it was me posting this..i would have said "BULL**** RUBBiSH"
lol i cant stand it. So before you judge someone first. Use common sense and ask the person in a message or somethign.

Xirian/Dara Wrote:

Dear Dark_Princess,
First off, I'm not going to apologize for my comments. They were straight-forward and accurate in relationship to the comments in the first post. I'm also not going to try to make discrepencies of who is posting what in what thread. I will simply direct my comments at the post and the poster whose name is there.
If you have a problem with what I wrote and think it's untrue, then that's your opinion. I stated my opinion, I gave you my thoughts on the matter. You are the one that posted the comments in open forum and therefore, I did the same with my comments.
There was nothing in my post that should have been offensive to you if you weren't the author of the thought. The debating skills of the person who supposedly wrote that, is in question. If it's not you and since I didn't mention any names and just said "you", there should be no problem. You should project the comments of my post to the person with the original thoughts. The only reason I could see why you'd be getting upset about this, is if it does reflect you in some way. But if it doesn't reflect you and those aren't your words, then why are you bent out of shape about it?
If you think I did something wrong, from here on out, go to the administrators and have them deal with me. I didn't have any personal beef against you, but I'm starting to have one now, and this private message is the reason.
~Dara~

Please go to the admin next time if you have a problem with my comments, I'm sure they'll know what to do with me.

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Jehovah Witness Religion

by theeonlinewitness in

hello everyone, this message is for all jehovah witnesses.

i am not here to bad mouth the religion of jehovah witness, but to prove that the religion of jehovah witnesses is false.

*also here is a website to a ex-jehovah's witness chat/forum http://groups.msn.com/ex-jehovahswitnesschat/general.msnw?action=get_threads

Xirian

Hello everyone, this message is for all Jehovah Witnesses. I am not here to bad mouth the religion of Jehovah Witness, but to prove that the religion of Jehovah Witnesses is false. I have proof that the Jehovah Witness religion is not true.

You're preaching to the choir here. Thanks for the info though. Just so I can show others.

However, I don't believe in your religious beliefs either. You're trying to convert the nonconvertable here. I think it's wonderful that you have a religion you believe it.

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What can 25,000 members on this board do?

by The wanderer in

jw
friends

what can 25,000 members on this board do?have you ever wanted to do something really great and re-.

ceive recognition for it?

one thing that many of us on this board have in common is .

Xirian

Surgical Technologist, Medical Transcriptionist, I have learned how to run a phpbb forum, a php Nuke forum, I'm learning how to build websites and use FTP clients to do so. I play several musical instruments, I sing, I have made jewelry in the past.

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How do you feel about Tatoos?

by Fisherman in

i feel very offended and distrurbed when i see people covered with tatoos.

some people have tatoos all over their bodies, even on their faces.

there are also tatoo programs on the tlc channel that children can watch without a forewarning before the show comes on.

Xirian

I personally think tattoos are fine. I have one that I spent about 2 1/2 years designing exactly as I wanted it. I wanted it to be a reflection of my outer and inner personality and as a protective animal totem, so to speak, since the animals I chose are ones that I feel protect me in a metaphysical sense.

If you're offended by something, then that's all on you and I could care less why you feel that way. You are obviously forcing your morals on me, and I have fine morals thank you very much.

Why don't you try worrying about something that actually matters, like sickness, homelessness, famine etc... and stop worrying about what people do to their own personal property. What you are saying is exactly the same as me saying that your JW suit offends me when you come to the door in the middle of the summer in super hot weather. You offend me that you don't take into consideration my feelings on how you dress and hurt your body by not allowing it the proper exposure to the outside elements at that time of year. That offends me. I could also say it offends me when I look at how you force your children to wear the same sort of outfits in the summer and how that's tantamount to child abuse. I could say I'm offended by the fact that you shave your face and keep your hair short because those are god-given gifts that shouldn't be altered. Shall I go on.

Of course, none of these things offend me because I would be wasting time worry about something I couldn't change and something that was based on my own moral standards.

Please for the sake of you and your family, Fisherman, get a life and go live it and stop worry about things that you can't control.

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Who Will Be Celebrating Thanksgiving & XMas This Year???

by minimus in

jw
friends

funny thing about jws----many celebrate thanksgiving but say they're only eating turkey with all the fixings by coincidence.

god made the food to be consumed everyday.

then you get witnesses who celebrate christmas the day before or after with all sorts of presents but they won't give it on the 25th because that day is pagan.

Xirian

I really don't celebrate any Christian holidays or pagan ones for that matter. Not that I probably wouldn't, but it just doesn't seem right to me to take on the celebrations of other religions, because I didn't celebrate them when I was younger. I'm not saying that's the reason others do, but these are simply my reasonings.

I find that when I have tried to celebrate in the past, I didn't have any reason for it. These holidays don't really matter to me and never really have. I don't even celebrate pagan holidays even though I consider myself a practicing witch. However, I don't claim any relgion because I don't feel that it's needed to prosper spiritually.

I do hope you all enjoy the time you'll be spending with your families!!!

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PROOF THIS JW Religion COULD BE THE TRUE RELIGION

by Dark_Princess in

well in the bible it says said by jesus christ himself... that "the true religion will be the relgion everyone despises and hates.".

is this not the relgion of jehovahs witnesses?..

look in the bible itself it says in john 15:18-19. jesus says, "if the world hates you, you know it has hated me before it has hated you.

Xirian

PROOF THIS JW Religion COULD BE THE TRUE RELIGION

Does anyone else see the logical fallicy in this statement. Proof that the religon could be the true religion. Either it is the truth and can be proven. Or it is not the true religion and can't be proven.

I think you might want to work on your debating or logic skills first and foremost. I do not understand why people continue to use publications from the very thing they are trying to understand or prove to someone else and expect that person not to see through it. If you're going to try to prove something to me, you will have to step outside of the box you're in and prove it from another angle and with many more sources than you've quoted here. You're using circular logic here. You simply cannot make a valid case if you only use one source, in this case, the Jehovah's Witness publications and the Bible. Find another way to prove your point that something could be true.

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need help for a dissasociation letter!

by aikido1914 in

jw
friends

please help me write a dissasociation letter to the elders and whoever else i need to let know, that i dont want to be involved or recognized as a jw.

tonight was the last straw for me, thought fading away was the answer but making a formal stand is necessary at this point... dont respond if youve only heard of the process, i have no more patience for wishywash answers, i need real comment by real ex jws and ill know right away if your the real deal.

i appreciate any responses to my request...

Xirian

I don't even believe that I tried to fade away. I made up my mind and stuck with it. I am thankful for doing so.

When I wrote mine, it was very short and sweet. I was only 17 at the time.

I believe it was something like the following:

"Dear Congregation,

I wish to disassociate myself from the Jehovah's Witnesses. There are many things about your religion that I simply do not agree with. I can no longer sit on the fence and ignore this doubt. I appreciate the many things I have been taught over the years, but it is not enough to make me feel comfortable being a "yes" man.

Sincerely,"

Hope this helps a bit.

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Welcome to xirian

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

jw
friends

xirian:.

good to see you made it here.. you have a pm.. .

(lady fey).

Xirian

Pleased to meet you codeblue.