I have always wondered this- where was a representative of Jehovah in the middle ages? And the last seven centuries before Russell??????
faundy
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FOR DUMMIES: Jehovah Has ALWAYS Used an Organization. Not!!
by Open mind inhow many times have you heard this from a jw?:.
"jehovah has always worked through an organization!
now i've heard plenty of rebuttals of this on jwd, but last night i thought of another way to look at it.
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Banned Religion
by faundy inone of the teachings of the witnesses is that prophetically, it has been revealed that religion will be banned shortly, and that this is another sign of the great tribulation.
assuming the other prophecies were a load of hoodlum, how would you feel if you turned on the news this morning and saw that bush, brown, and other world leaders declared a united front, banning religion?
would it make you wonder whether the witnesses may have been right?
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faundy
One of the teachings of the witnesses is that prophetically, it has been revealed that religion will be banned shortly, and that this is another sign of the great tribulation. Assuming the other prophecies were a load of hoodlum, how would you feel if you turned on the news this morning and saw that Bush, Brown, and other world leaders declared a united front, banning religion? Would it make you wonder whether the witnesses may have been right?
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"Don't Sing That Song!!!"
by tan inwere there any "wordly" songs you weren't allowed to sing as a child?.
two that come to mind:.
land down under by men at work -- my mom thought that they were talking about "hell" .
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faundy
A Whiter Shade of Pale.... being that it was about drugs.....
Anything by Eminem- I remember being at the convention about the year 2000, we had radios on because we were part of the watchmen at the entrance to the convention, checking lapels, et, and we could tune into the radio to listen to the discourse. I was there rocking to the Real Slim Shady. Ha. -
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Wondering About Dansk.....
by Sunspot inhas anyone heard anything about ian since he entered the hospital for treatment on that virus he contracted?
he has been on my mind and in my heart ever since we got news of this...... hugs,.
annie.
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faundy
Dansk (aka my dad, lol) has been in this past week because of a virus that wasn't responding to normal antibiotics. He was supposed to come home today but his blood tests are still showing something they need to get rid off. I'm sorry but I don't quite get the details of what's wrong. But there's a chance he may be home tomorrow; if not it could be Monday. Nobody really knows enough to put an exact date of his coming home; it's all about blood test results. Hope that helps! Faundy.
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What now?
by faundy ini stopped going to meeting over a year ago (profile explains why) and have enjoyed doing all the stuff that comes with being a non-witness; ie going out, meeting new people, lying in on a sunday, never having to wear dowdy skirts, etc.
however since coming on the forum and commenting more, i have realised that eventually i will wonder about faith again.
i still have a bible, the nwt, and even though some may say it's not a good version i do find it pleasant to read, and it's what i'm used to.
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faundy
We don't have Barnes and Noble here in the UK, I think our equivalent would be Waterstones; as an English Literature student I spend quite a bit of time in there already. I can't say I'm into philosophy and the like. I have recently simply been in the kind of mood where I wish it was clearer, and easier, to know what God wanted and exactly which faith he approved of. I spoke to my girlfriend before and she agrees that going to church would be nice; she's a protestant by birth and attends church when she's home. As a student in Liverpool Sunday mornings as I'm sure you can appreciate are about recovering from the night before. But I think it would be good for both of us; she challenges me to think about religion and I'm glad that we can talk openly about it. She has only known me since I've been openly gay and away from the meetings but is trying to understand the shunning I'm experiencing and the difficulty to leave something that has been a part of my life since I was born. By the way, just a small point; I don't want to be seen as nitpicking but I do not think my lifestyle is something I have chosen, it's simply a part of me. Your calling it a 'choice' sounds very much like something an elder would say; I don't honestly believe it was something I could ever have changed about myself, and for years I really did try.
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What now?
by faundy ini stopped going to meeting over a year ago (profile explains why) and have enjoyed doing all the stuff that comes with being a non-witness; ie going out, meeting new people, lying in on a sunday, never having to wear dowdy skirts, etc.
however since coming on the forum and commenting more, i have realised that eventually i will wonder about faith again.
i still have a bible, the nwt, and even though some may say it's not a good version i do find it pleasant to read, and it's what i'm used to.
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faundy
That should be 'live similarly' by the way, not lie!
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What now?
by faundy ini stopped going to meeting over a year ago (profile explains why) and have enjoyed doing all the stuff that comes with being a non-witness; ie going out, meeting new people, lying in on a sunday, never having to wear dowdy skirts, etc.
however since coming on the forum and commenting more, i have realised that eventually i will wonder about faith again.
i still have a bible, the nwt, and even though some may say it's not a good version i do find it pleasant to read, and it's what i'm used to.
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faundy
I know of a few brothers and sisters who lie very similarly to you, allgot; they may feel that there are discrepancies, unanswered questions, etc, but that the organization gives at least what seem to be the most logical answers to many questions. However even if I felt that being a witness was the closest I could get, I would not be allowed to continue associating because of theg ay thing. It's as though I would be attending constantly as a disfellowshipped person, going to the meetings but living as a lesbian. I wonder actually , whether that has ever been done before, that someone attends every meeting they can but who never gets reinstated because of a certain part of their life that does not conform. But I guess that's the subject for another topic.
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What now?
by faundy ini stopped going to meeting over a year ago (profile explains why) and have enjoyed doing all the stuff that comes with being a non-witness; ie going out, meeting new people, lying in on a sunday, never having to wear dowdy skirts, etc.
however since coming on the forum and commenting more, i have realised that eventually i will wonder about faith again.
i still have a bible, the nwt, and even though some may say it's not a good version i do find it pleasant to read, and it's what i'm used to.
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faundy
I can't really explain it, other than the NWT is what I'm familiar with, I don't like all the thees and thous that come with other translations. I don't know how much the NWT is off the mark because I have never looked into it. I didn't leave the WTS because of being disillusioned with their translation of the Bible. I think it's harsh to say that being comfortable with the familiar in this instance can be compared to being familiar with violence- I don't see that as a strong argument. I'm simply after people's opinions; I like the idea of the born-again faith in some ways but not in others. And I wonder whether there will ever be a religion that people are 100% happy with, and if not, then why not? After all, if it has God's backing (presuming he exists) surely it should be perfect??
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What now?
by faundy ini stopped going to meeting over a year ago (profile explains why) and have enjoyed doing all the stuff that comes with being a non-witness; ie going out, meeting new people, lying in on a sunday, never having to wear dowdy skirts, etc.
however since coming on the forum and commenting more, i have realised that eventually i will wonder about faith again.
i still have a bible, the nwt, and even though some may say it's not a good version i do find it pleasant to read, and it's what i'm used to.
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faundy
I stopped going to meeting over a year ago (profile explains why) and have enjoyed doing all the stuff that comes with being a non-witness; ie going out, meeting new people, lying in on a Sunday, never having to wear dowdy skirts, etc. However since coming on the forum and commenting more, I have realised that eventually I will wonder about faith again. I still have a Bible, the NWT, and even though some may say it's not a good version I do find it pleasant to read, and it's what I'm used to. I was wondering where many here have turned, if they are still believers in a Creator. I'm nervous about going to a new church but if I didn't really have the truth, I'm a bit scared about where to go next. I personally am not satisfied with a big bang/evolutionary theory as the reason I'm here. Any thoughts?
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Advice Needed
by faundy ini stopped going to meetings over a year ago as i'm a lesbian and have finally accepted it.
i was a witness for 22 years, since i was born.
now i missed my friends at the hall at first, but now i have some amazing new friends that love me no matter what.
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faundy
I think I get your point... but part of the reason I want to talk to them is to show them how happy I am now. I was so down with myself all the time whilst still going to meetings. And I'm not ignorant or stubborn as a rule and I hate to ignore people. That's why I was wondering. Also, why now? What have they heard that made them contact me? My ex best mate who is the wife of an elder and a pioneer herself has my new number and she knows that I was living with a previous girlfriend but she never told the PO about that, nor has she passed on my new number to him, so I'm wondering whether she is letting me be, letting me live my life and realising in her own way that she wants me to be happy and not have to answer anyone's questions- it's as though she is supporting me but not doing it overtly, so as not to draw attention to herself. She has plenty of info on me that I have told her myself that could get me into 'trouble', and she has always kept it to herself and not told anyone.