Trevanian

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  Showdown with the CO!

  by erynw in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  update on my jw friend.

  look here for the first episode.. this is kind of long but well worth the read!.

  ok, so she comes over tonight and we start discussing the child abuse cover up.

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  Trevanian

  Lucidity and preparation, a killer combo. Well done man.
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  Richie's side, Seth's side... and a third side

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  2. friends

  i got a pm from richie.

  shockingly, he has a side to the story!

  so i have a legitimate sounding story from richie, who i know to be a young, rebellious man.

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  Trevanian

  It's good that this discussion is happening.

  I think the two main lessons for Ritchie are these -

  One. A lot of people here really like you, so come home, son, and you'll be fine.

  Two. Lying does catch up with you eventually, so take note, try not to do it in public again, and come home, son!
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  What Has Happened to This Place!!??

  by journey-on in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what has happened to this place??!!.

  i left this board a while back to reorganize and get refocused.

  the vibe of jwd was changing and the forum became "unbalanced" (for lack of a better word).

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  Trevanian

  There is a side of this site that is just too Dubby for my liking, and I know many people feel the same way.

  And yet the research, the analysis and the scans from those who are still in, or still interested, are extremely important.

  But to keep other people, normal non-scholarly ex Dubs or exiting Dubs, actively participating here, there has to be some less high-brow conversation going on. Call it fluffy if you like. And the soapies just make it all the more compelling.

  I think that if everyone just posted scriptural research, JW Discussion would have turned into JW Boring a long time ago.
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  The Watchtower art department strikes again!!! LOL

  by cultswatter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please have a look at the white horse on page 91 of rev climax book(the horse that jesus is riding).

  this horse is what a horse should look like.

  (don't look at it too long or you may be tempted) now look at the same white horse on page 23 of the feb 15th 2008 wt.

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  Trevanian

  I'm astonished that the white horse...

  No, just joking around. I'm astonished that some people have so much time on their hands to examine the illustrations in Watchtower literature.

  There is so much other good stuff to read out there.
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  Wikipedia being abused by Jehovahs Witnesses

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i had a look at the wikipedia entry for jehovahs witnesses yesterday and noticed that it wasn't as comprehensive as it once was.. most links to non-pro-jw sites have gone as is anything truly critical or exposing of their beliefs and practices.. last night i added a link to this site to the "other sources" section.

  this morning it is gone.. i wonder whether this is some private zealot who has decided to do it or an organised campaign?.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jehovah%27s_witnesses.

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  Trevanian

  There are two things that make Wikipedia work, and work well.

  The first is the principle of NPOV - neutral point of view. If you read nothing else in their guidelines for editing, read that one. It's very well written and a good life lesson.

  The second is the sheer democracy of Wikipedia. Absolutely anyone can edit any article, but then absolutely anyone can edit your edits. So if you stick to the principles, and especially that of NPOV, and explain all your edits on the discussion page, as well as an abbreviated explanation when you sign your edit, then your changes may well stand.

  If somebody with a POV tries to edit, you can undo their edits and explain that it violates NPOV.

  Beautiful.

  If there really is a dedicated team at World Headquarters monitoring the JW articles on Wikipedia, then maybe someone here with the time and the inclination could start monitoring them? From looking at an editor's history of edits, it's pretty simple to figure out who has an agenda and who is editing with an honest spirit.

  If an editor sitting in Brooklyn or wherever constantly violates something like NPOV then a quick report to Wiki admin will get that sorted out.
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  Latest e-mail: A JW "insider's" spin on Bethel expansion

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for your viewing pleasure.

  how would you reply?.

  sent: sunday, december 02, 2007 9:19 amsubject: fw: now public!

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  Trevanian

  (Here is the chance for all of you to apply as temporary workers!)

  Yay.

  No salary. No security. Looks crap on your CV. Why do people do this again?
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  Lies on Line...I always thought JWD was a forum for Honesty

  by restrangled in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after finding this forum and being raised in the jw religion, i found jwd a refreshing place for honest feelings, fears, life experiences etc.. the history of the jw's was exposed, and those who lived any experience under this regime has been told by many members.. to be lied to by any forum member is insulting.

  i have over my past year and 1/2 come to love many posters.

  i realize many more have much longer time put in here.. i have been honest and exposed more of my self than i care to think about, but always kept in mind that others were doing the same and it was best for anyone new.. to lie on this forum to all of these members is horrible and i am questioning why i am so honest here.

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  I agree with you 100% Bisous. I'm attempting to highlight that very hypocrisy you speak of.
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  Lies on Line...I always thought JWD was a forum for Honesty

  by restrangled in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after finding this forum and being raised in the jw religion, i found jwd a refreshing place for honest feelings, fears, life experiences etc.. the history of the jw's was exposed, and those who lived any experience under this regime has been told by many members.. to be lied to by any forum member is insulting.

  i have over my past year and 1/2 come to love many posters.

  i realize many more have much longer time put in here.. i have been honest and exposed more of my self than i care to think about, but always kept in mind that others were doing the same and it was best for anyone new.. to lie on this forum to all of these members is horrible and i am questioning why i am so honest here.

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  Trevanian

  Your mother named you SixofNine?
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  Lies on Line...I always thought JWD was a forum for Honesty

  by restrangled in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after finding this forum and being raised in the jw religion, i found jwd a refreshing place for honest feelings, fears, life experiences etc.. the history of the jw's was exposed, and those who lived any experience under this regime has been told by many members.. to be lied to by any forum member is insulting.

  i have over my past year and 1/2 come to love many posters.

  i realize many more have much longer time put in here.. i have been honest and exposed more of my self than i care to think about, but always kept in mind that others were doing the same and it was best for anyone new.. to lie on this forum to all of these members is horrible and i am questioning why i am so honest here.

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  Trevanian

  This thread is brilliant. Mainly because it exposes the hypocricy of JWs, JWD, and all of us.

  Honesty is extremely important to me in daily life. But hey, look, I'm lying about my very name here, aren't I? Do you believe my name is really Trevanian?

  And how about you? How honest are you about who you are?

  Let's go back to the topic:

  Lies on Line...I always thought JWD was a forum for Honesty

  Where on earth did that idea come from? A forum for honesty, populated by hundreds of people who went from door to door saying to people:

  "We're not here to convert you, honest."

  As blondie said, this is where we come from:

  After many years in an organization that indirectly and directly encouraged deceit...

  If this is a forum for honesty, then why am I posting as Trevanian and not under my real name? Why do only a small handfull of posters here use their real names, first names and surnames? Those, my friends, are the honest ones, and hats off to them. For getting the point, I hereby grant Priest73 the Post of The Thread Award

  good god! can we all put on our big girl panties and get back to discussing the oral sex thread?!?!

  Looking for honesty? Until you post your life story here under your real name, you're looking in the wrong place.
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  If you dont believe in God...according to the bible you are a fool!

  by Blackboo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the fool has said in his heart there is no "god" how can this?

  why do non-believers jump to such a conclusion?

  i have notice many former witnesses have lost faith in god because of a a "religion" who didnt measure up to what it claims.

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  Trevanian

  Hmm, let me think about this.

  God says if you dont believe in him...he views you as a fool! Of course most people who dont believe in him or the bible will get offended

  Nope.

  Don't think many people who don't believe in god will be particularly offended if the god they don't believe in views them as a fool.