At least any publicity would be important, how bottom line that Spain's JW money, congregation/branch property is ownership of the WTS, New York, U.S.A. which holds multi-million dollar properties worldwide.
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38Elder says that there're apostates who are organized in Spain
by cattails inan elder said that there are apostates organized in spain to make the sale of the spanish branch money go to the congregations that provided the funds.
he has photos of the place from an email and had heard this from a circuit overseer who just visited there.
has anyone heard confirmation of this?.
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Elder giving special talk has lunch with us...shuts me down for asking about society money..lol?
by Witness 007 inwe had a nice lunch with the elder giving the "special talk" but the conversation turned toward the cancelled bookstudy....well i went on to explain how knorr made too many meetings for brothers with families and how good it was to have a free night {even though i go to one meeting a week} then i said: "well, headquarters seems to have a very buisness smart brother working there with the publications now for donations due to tax and selling all those buildings in the heart of new york for millions and moving out....{elder interupts me] "yes, but, jehovah is the one who is buisness smart brother..." i thought wtf!
weird response, like was it too un-spiritual?
did jehoover really "tell" brothers to sell in new york?
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Gayle
And 'business smart Jehovah' has quite a large attorney group for many reasons (lawsuits) !!
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Would you rather see the WTS move mainstream or just collapse in a heap?
by ThomasCovenant inmaybe eventually the wts will adapt and change and try to go mainstream.. as 'new shite' shines brightly then;.
maybe eventually celebrating birthdays and even christmas will be 'allowed' without too many repercussions.. maybe eventually the 'blood' issue will fade away and 'brothers' wil be allowed the whole lot of fractions together at the same time.. maybe eventually disfellowshipping and particularly shunning will be seen as unloving and done away with.. personally i would rather this wouldn't happen.. i would prefer to see the wts collapse in the mire even with all the emotional fallout there would be to those still in having their crutches pulled away from them.. i don't want the wts to modify and adapt and go more gentle on the rank and file.. i want them to get more harsh with the brothers.. i want it to go down, not along.. am i being too cruel to those still in?.
would the more loving caring attitude be to hope that the wts changes for the better?.
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Gayle
Collapse. They don't have the creativity nor charisma to mainstream successfully.. They could break up into scattered small groups of mostly older people but at least the worldwide global connectivity would dissolve. At least the youth would see it at totally unsuccessful for any possible future for them.
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Ex-JW Program Announcement today by Brenda Lee - 8 pm ET
by Gayle inannouncement.
brenda lee, author of out of the cocoon: a young womans courageous flight from the grip of a religious cult, will be interviewed in two days: monday, may 11.. .
tune into the chosen at 6 p.m. mountain time (8 p.m. eastern time) for approx.
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ANNOUNCEMENT
Brenda Lee, author of OUT OF THE COCOON: A YOUNG WOMAN’S COURAGEOUS FLIGHT FROM THE GRIP OF A RELIGIOUS CULT, will be interviewed in two days: MONDAY, MAY 11.
Tune into “The Chosen” at 6 p.m. Mountain Time (8 p.m. Eastern Time) for approx. 1 hour. To listen live via your computer, go to:
The call in number if you'd like to make a comment during the show, or ask a question, is:
1-877-932-9766 (toll free)
One of the things I hope to discuss is the upcoming July '09 Awake magazine in which the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, under the heading “IS IT WRONG TO CHANGE YOUR RELIGION?” instructs Jehovah's Witnesses:
"No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.”
For someone like me who has been shunned by my family for the last 28 years because I found the Jehovah Witness beliefs unacceptable, this statement is clearly riddled with ignorance and unfathomable hypocrisy! (Email me if you'd like to receive a scan of the article.)
I also intend to discuss why I believe the Watchtower is a cult and why we shouldn't be afraid to use that word.
If you miss the interview but want to hear it later, check my website for the recorded show about a week later at: www.outofthecocoon.net.
Please post or pass this information along to anyone who may be interested. Thanks.
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http://buffalobullet.blogspot.com/2009/05/brenda-lee-authors-reflection-on.html (check out my blog here)
PS. As most of you know, I'm going to be featured, along with three other cult survivors, on "The Secret Lives of Women," in either July or August. The segment will air on WE (Women's Entertainment), a nationally televised cable program. I will keep you up to date when I learn more about the air date.
Brenda Lee
"Out of the Cocoon:
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From the Grip of a Religious Cult"
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Watchtower Society becoming religion just for old people
by Gayle inthe young people aren't putting up with the religion empty demands.
i now have a relative graduating this year in high school.
he (straight a student, musically gifted & in band, college bound) made it clear that his grandmother was not invited because of her very disrespectful judgmentalism toward his parents who he respects totally.
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Gayle
The young people aren't putting up with the religion empty demands. I now have a relative graduating this year in high school. He (straight A student, musically gifted & in band, college bound) made it clear that his grandmother was not invited because of her very disrespectful judgmentalism toward his parents who he respects totally. He will not tolerate it at all. His grandmother is confused by his decision. I, as his aunt, am so proud of him and respect his decision. Some old people deservedly reap what they sow.
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WATCHTOWER'S NEW POLICY FOR USING THEIR LOGO...
by JustHuman14 ini don't know if anyone else wrote a similar subject, but since i didn't see any post, i have decided to post for this subject.
so the km of april had an article regarding using wt's logo.
it was in the greek km.
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Gayle
Maybe they got 'new light' that the Watchtower logo is a pagan symbol, a phallic symbol after all.
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I'm not Anti-anything here - but still....please watch
by AK - Jeff ini don't know if the premises here are provable or not.
but if this video is right - the world our grandkids will inherit will be like a different planet.
please watch.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3x5hifxyu.
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Gayle
The clip really instills fear mostly, stating at the end they were "believers" from the "gospel." I think the vast majority of Muslims just want a better life, especially for their children. Many are behind decades from 1st world cultures. Not too long ago here, Catholics had very large families. Some Muslims are already educated and most want better educations for their sons and also their daughters. I won't be here in 2050, but no doubt, people will laugh at our fear of Muslims then. Remember, not too long ago, when someone different moved into the neighborhood, was the expression, "well, there goes the neighborhood." We have changed in our prejudices and I hope will continue to do so. Good to read: http://www.prb.org/Articles/2008/muslimsineurope.aspx?p=1
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Ramapo denies Jehovah's Witnesses tax exemption
by lrkr inhttp://www.lohud.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20090503/news03/905030339&s=d&page=#pluckcomments.
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this morning's paper- front page..
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Gayle
I suspect JWs to win. $400,000 will be a chunk for the community to absorb. And more 'knock-knocks' Saturday mornings.