I learned negativity from the Watchtower master. The Watchtower criticizes everything in this life, teaches nothing has value in this world and therefore 99% of the people must be destroyed soon. I can only point their negativity back at them. Outside of that tho, I can verify that life beyond JW world, this life is to be appreciated, enjoyed and I can only be thankful.
Posts by Gayle
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21How would you respond if a Witness tells you that you are "negative?"
by BonaFide inwhen i bring a subject up and then talk about old wt's or the blood fraction, i occasionally get that response.. yes, i know i can reply, "but i am telling you the truth.
don't you want the truth?".
but i am looking for something more subtle, something that can help a witness to get beyond their cognitive dissonance.. but without a standoff.
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Our Strengths...a list of attributes post-cult
by alamb infound this tonite while online.
i was comforted to know that we have all come out stronger...and why.. compassion & empathy: having survived cultic abuse, you may be readier to empathize with someone else's grief.
it's easy to see the difference between the care and concern our commenters show each other and the hurtful sarcasm so prevalent in the blogosphere.
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Gayle
That was so heart warming. Thank you. I forwarded this on to our ex-JW Meet-up group here in Phoenix. It is true that positive attitude is so much easier now and the negative attitude of the Watchtower causes its people depression and misery in the long run.
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Elder says that there're apostates who are organized in Spain
by cattails inan elder said that there are apostates organized in spain to make the sale of the spanish branch money go to the congregations that provided the funds.
he has photos of the place from an email and had heard this from a circuit overseer who just visited there.
has anyone heard confirmation of this?.
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Gayle
At least any publicity would be important, how bottom line that Spain's JW money, congregation/branch property is ownership of the WTS, New York, U.S.A. which holds multi-million dollar properties worldwide.
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Elder giving special talk has lunch with us...shuts me down for asking about society money..lol?
by Witness 007 inwe had a nice lunch with the elder giving the "special talk" but the conversation turned toward the cancelled bookstudy....well i went on to explain how knorr made too many meetings for brothers with families and how good it was to have a free night {even though i go to one meeting a week} then i said: "well, headquarters seems to have a very buisness smart brother working there with the publications now for donations due to tax and selling all those buildings in the heart of new york for millions and moving out....{elder interupts me] "yes, but, jehovah is the one who is buisness smart brother..." i thought wtf!
weird response, like was it too un-spiritual?
did jehoover really "tell" brothers to sell in new york?
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Gayle
And 'business smart Jehovah' has quite a large attorney group for many reasons (lawsuits) !!
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Would you rather see the WTS move mainstream or just collapse in a heap?
by ThomasCovenant inmaybe eventually the wts will adapt and change and try to go mainstream.. as 'new shite' shines brightly then;.
maybe eventually celebrating birthdays and even christmas will be 'allowed' without too many repercussions.. maybe eventually the 'blood' issue will fade away and 'brothers' wil be allowed the whole lot of fractions together at the same time.. maybe eventually disfellowshipping and particularly shunning will be seen as unloving and done away with.. personally i would rather this wouldn't happen.. i would prefer to see the wts collapse in the mire even with all the emotional fallout there would be to those still in having their crutches pulled away from them.. i don't want the wts to modify and adapt and go more gentle on the rank and file.. i want them to get more harsh with the brothers.. i want it to go down, not along.. am i being too cruel to those still in?.
would the more loving caring attitude be to hope that the wts changes for the better?.
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Gayle
Collapse. They don't have the creativity nor charisma to mainstream successfully.. They could break up into scattered small groups of mostly older people but at least the worldwide global connectivity would dissolve. At least the youth would see it at totally unsuccessful for any possible future for them.
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Ex-JW Program Announcement today by Brenda Lee - 8 pm ET
by Gayle inannouncement.
brenda lee, author of out of the cocoon: a young womans courageous flight from the grip of a religious cult, will be interviewed in two days: monday, may 11.. .
tune into the chosen at 6 p.m. mountain time (8 p.m. eastern time) for approx.
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Gayle
ANNOUNCEMENT
Brenda Lee, author of OUT OF THE COCOON: A YOUNG WOMAN’S COURAGEOUS FLIGHT FROM THE GRIP OF A RELIGIOUS CULT, will be interviewed in two days: MONDAY, MAY 11.
Tune into “The Chosen” at 6 p.m. Mountain Time (8 p.m. Eastern Time) for approx. 1 hour. To listen live via your computer, go to:
The call in number if you'd like to make a comment during the show, or ask a question, is:
1-877-932-9766 (toll free)
One of the things I hope to discuss is the upcoming July '09 Awake magazine in which the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, under the heading “IS IT WRONG TO CHANGE YOUR RELIGION?” instructs Jehovah's Witnesses:
"No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.”
For someone like me who has been shunned by my family for the last 28 years because I found the Jehovah Witness beliefs unacceptable, this statement is clearly riddled with ignorance and unfathomable hypocrisy! (Email me if you'd like to receive a scan of the article.)
I also intend to discuss why I believe the Watchtower is a cult and why we shouldn't be afraid to use that word.
If you miss the interview but want to hear it later, check my website for the recorded show about a week later at: www.outofthecocoon.net.
Please post or pass this information along to anyone who may be interested. Thanks.
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PS. As most of you know, I'm going to be featured, along with three other cult survivors, on "The Secret Lives of Women," in either July or August. The segment will air on WE (Women's Entertainment), a nationally televised cable program. I will keep you up to date when I learn more about the air date.
Brenda Lee
"Out of the Cocoon:
A Young Woman's Courageous Flight
From the Grip of a Religious Cult"
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Watchtower Society becoming religion just for old people
by Gayle inthe young people aren't putting up with the religion empty demands.
i now have a relative graduating this year in high school.
he (straight a student, musically gifted & in band, college bound) made it clear that his grandmother was not invited because of her very disrespectful judgmentalism toward his parents who he respects totally.
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Gayle
The young people aren't putting up with the religion empty demands. I now have a relative graduating this year in high school. He (straight A student, musically gifted & in band, college bound) made it clear that his grandmother was not invited because of her very disrespectful judgmentalism toward his parents who he respects totally. He will not tolerate it at all. His grandmother is confused by his decision. I, as his aunt, am so proud of him and respect his decision. Some old people deservedly reap what they sow.
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WATCHTOWER'S NEW POLICY FOR USING THEIR LOGO...
by JustHuman14 ini don't know if anyone else wrote a similar subject, but since i didn't see any post, i have decided to post for this subject.
so the km of april had an article regarding using wt's logo.
it was in the greek km.
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Gayle
Maybe they got 'new light' that the Watchtower logo is a pagan symbol, a phallic symbol after all.
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