Knorr was more direct to those of us at Bethel in early '70s:
"I brought you in and I can take you out!"
Basically back then, we knew there that Knorr 'was' the GB, but he let Freddie have some things to say here and there.
can't you just feel the love of the org.. .
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22 who will share in the final witness?
Knorr was more direct to those of us at Bethel in early '70s:
"I brought you in and I can take you out!"
Basically back then, we knew there that Knorr 'was' the GB, but he let Freddie have some things to say here and there.
hey everyone, i want to apologize for not rtesponding to a number of messages i recieved over the last month or so.
i took a break as suggested by someone else to try and sort things out and clear my head.
my wife has been reading alot on here and kept me updated on all the fun that has been going on!.
Sounds like the elders are the "confused" ones. They just probably don't want to DF you.
I know of one who left the org. The elders didn't want to 'approach' him either, he totally baffled them. Finally, for his kids, he put up Christmas lights. He was notified by a relative in a different country, that he was DF'd. He was never informed by the elders.
Well, Christmas is in a couple months.
after more than two years here on jwn, i will unmask myself and finally close the closet door behind me, fully coming out.. let me be pithy.. my name is vincent deporter.
i'm a writer/artist published a little all over the place.
i started my career in france, about 35 years ago.
Thanks Randy!
Another site on Facebook under "Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses in Arizona." That site not very active recently.
Here in Phoenix there was a gathering (last month) a central AMC showing of "The Truth Be Told" documentary. I think 60 tickets were sold.
There are very many ex-JWs in the valley. Most don't attend the meetups, or just occasionally, but they go on with their lives, busy catching up with life, and enjoying life very much more than ever.
when you're part of a lovely big group of people who all seem to be happy in their beliefs, it's easier to quell your own doubts.
if i was the only person left in the congregation who still went on the door to door work, because every body else had stopped going , having said out loud what most think, ''it's a waste of time'', how long do you think before i too would cease going door to door?.
i know from my own perspective that having lots of fellow witnesses around me, steered me into making life changing decisions.
An abuser doesn't self-scrutinize much. They just stand back scratching their butt, stating they just don't understand at all 'why' ones (their victims) left them. They put the blame on others.
after more than two years here on jwn, i will unmask myself and finally close the closet door behind me, fully coming out.. let me be pithy.. my name is vincent deporter.
i'm a writer/artist published a little all over the place.
i started my career in france, about 35 years ago.
So glad for you that you have found freedom, a new life and have such a fulfilling talent for your work. Having your gift of humor and sharing that is such a healer. And glad you are in the Phoenix area. There are a couple areas, NW Phoenix and Chandler that have exJW groups that would really enjoy meeting you. Each group meet once a month and neither have any belief system agenda, but to encourage and personally understand.
# 3 newbie post.
first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.
have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!
It is so heart-warming to see such a list. Very encouraging! Someday, maybe there will be a list of "real" names. I could not have signed such a list of my 'real' name for 10 years, but now I can. 'Totally free' for near 20 years now.
no more boes or kingdom ministries will be posted by us on this board.
there is a very important reason why!
beware of anyone encouraging you to post any boes on this board.
The GB may try to hold someone down a very short while, while more pop up. They have a losing battle on that one and more.
no more boes or kingdom ministries will be posted by us on this board.
there is a very important reason why!
beware of anyone encouraging you to post any boes on this board.
Atlantis, thank you for all work here.
i'll let the video speak for itself!
she actually gets choked up in the middle.... .
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0hdztvh8mvw.
just checked the lyrics, line per line, fits so much against the abusive WTS.
Maybe someone here can copy and paste the lyrics,,(my computer doesn't let me do that right now)
whoah this video is so sad and cultlike - the most uncomfortable 6 minutes i've sat through for awhile.
the gb have seemingly pulled the rug from beneath the gillead missionaries and assigned them internally to bolster the organisation.
closing the ranks.. .
About 50 seconds in,,the way he tightens his 'fists' up, and stating right to these graduates, to "bolster up" these congregations, just sounds like they are getting trained to 'trouble shoot' or fight or exert a lot of strength in these assignments.. I think the GB is expecting more future probs in congs.