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  Heavenly hope?

  by DS211 in

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  2. bible

  ok i read this today and since i never can see what others think of it id like to get some feedback.

  its frkm anointedjw.org.

  after reading your whole site i came to a decision.

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  Gayle

  Even among the WT 'heavenly' partakers, there's a lot of confusion in WT history as noted by poster "The Oracle": http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/136010/2/Memorial-Partaker-totals-for-72-years-by-request

  In 1961, (those of us that were around then, were just kids, observing by far most partakers were already 'old' - 13,911) Likely, all would have died by now. Yet, since the WT has only stated that 'new' partakers are only 'replacement' partakers who have 'fallen' to apostasy, etc. Comical, that that is about the number of partakers this year!!! Did all the 1961 partakers get 'replaced?'
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  First time poster

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i finally decided to post.

  i'm so scared of being caught, so i'll be vague.

  i'm an appointed brother.

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  Gayle

  Good for you on your 're-evaluation!' Initially it can be bitter,, but with time it becomes bitter-sweet and then sweeter and sweeter with time. The pain of disappointment lightens. The 'aloneness' can feel so strong, but reading books of ones Ray Franz and Hassan on mind control tactics and there are so many other books of ones who have left, each with their own story, but there is a similarity of these.

  So many best wishes to your growth and quest of real truth and freedom of your heart and mind.
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  help for a forum member

  by jeremiah18:5-10 in

  1. social
  2. family

  frowned upon is a lurking member here.

  he never posts, but actively reads.

  he went home yesterday to attend a family wedding.

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  Gayle

  Right, JWs don't know what to do with you when you're happy. They are totally confused, and frustrated if they can't get you down and depressed.
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  RESPONSE: Letting Go of the Need to Have Approval - MUST READ!

  by gmason972 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thanks for the responses everybody!...nice to know i'm not alone in this.

  the one thing that the watchtower society has taught me is to never place your value and worth in the hands of other people!....

  once you look deep down inside yourself and let go of the need to have approval from others...you will find out things about you; you didn't know before.

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  Gayle

  That is so true!! As JWs, ones are suppose to worry so much about "stumbling" others. Since everything there is 'conditional love.' and judgmental, we subconsciously learned to put on the JW robe or should I say "straight jecket."

  There was no allowance to be "true" to ourselves. "Love your neighbor, AS YOURSELF!" How many times did I read that? but somehow the WTS made it sound like to 'love your neighbor, but not yourself.'
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  WTS overboard w/suggested presentation

  by doinmypart in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the nov 2013 km contains an article that is ridiculous in its level of minutae.. they focus on the word "because".

  they tell jws to use the word "because" when explaining why they're at the homeowner's door.

  writing department, you wrote an article on the use of the word "because"?

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  Gayle

  Publishers must not want to say why,,they know how unfruitful that is or they don't know 'why' any more
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  New Article on BEARDS and Attire of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have had requests to add an article about beards and jehovah's witnesses.

  it is interesting that there is virtually no statement that says a witness cannot have a beard, yet universally they do not have beards.

  i have scoured quotes from all the threads on jwn, all references to beard on the cd watchtower library, and copies of elders letters that i have.

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  Gayle

  In the movie, "To Verdener" or "Worlds Apart." Produced in Denmark. An elder (actor) in movie had a beard. Of course, movie was not in English. Some who watched the objected that an elder would not have a beard, but some stated in Denmark they do. ?? Denmark speak Danish, German.
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  Tech49 visits Bethel: Part 1-Patterson

  by Tech49 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i thought that it was a good time to post my experience about visiting new york last spring.

  enough time has passed that no one can put my experiences together with any kind of timeline..... so our family discussed the trip to the holy land (ny bethel), as none of us had ever been.

  anyone who is anyone knows that you aren't really a good jw christian until you visit bethel!

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  Gayle

  Such a boring place, comfortable if you're comfortable with 'robotism' and 'parrotism.' Relaxed dinner conversation is almost non-existent.

  Filling tupperware for left-overs was okay, at least in your room it's more comfortable and quiet to eat, unless you have to rush off for Monday eve. WT.; or meetings, field service.

  I was there (in Brooklyn tho) five years. One year doesn't stand out too much different than the next. Maybe that's why the long-timers, hardly get a reflection of the years & decades passing.
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  The TRUTH about Jehovah's Wittnesses (from MY 22 YRS. EXPERIENCE) - A MUST READ!

  by gmason972 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have learned to stay away from all religion and jehovahs wittness doctrine (that includes the watchtower and awake magazines).

  stay away from positions of ministerial servant, pioneer, aux pioneer, elder, and the like.

  once you become a full fledged jehovah wittness you are doomed to be unhappy.

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  Gayle

  Happiness is mainly going to meetings and going in service thus saith the GB. The WT/GB lied to us. Amazing how they could even make us lie to ourselves about "happiness." We were guilted to deny our own happiness. If we were unhappy, we were only to self-condemn ourselves. We were taught then it was our own fault if we were unhappy. Just should study WT more. Otherwise, we were to accept unhappiness because of this world and our battle within ourselves and accept being miserable as Paul was ("miserable man that I am"),

  To now think for ourselves and step up to our own accountability to be personally "happy" brings freedom of mind and heart. I think coming to terms of our 'honest' personal happiness (within) is the first step and motivator of our push through the WT walls of deceit.
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  Candace Conti v Watchtower Society | June 3, 2013 | Respondent's Brief - prepared by Rick Simons | A136641

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  jw leaks has published the respondent's brief prepared by rick simons in the case: candace conti v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york & fremont congregation of jehovah's witnesses.

  (90 pages).

  http://jwleaks.org/candace-conti/.

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  Gayle

  Nothing in over 2 months? All parties applied for "oral" arguments. But no follow up? Do we assume that "oral" has not been done yet or? Is this 'stretch' common? I think I read after written *and oral* have been presented, then the Court has 3 months (or 90 days) for decision?
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  Unconfirmed 2014 Year Book Numbers - Peak Pubs, Baptized, Hrs, Reg Pio & Studies

  by OwnAccord in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i bethelite sent this email out - can't really give out names.

  we wrote these figures as quickly as possible, but could not keep up 100%).

  you get to check these figures out when you get your 2014 yearbook.

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  Gayle

  Interesting,,'Avg. Pubs', and 'Aux Pio'. not noted with any increases. Suspect, don't ya think? From 2011 to 2012, Aux. Pio. showed a decrease of 11%.