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  MY 10 YEAR OLD COMES HOME FROM SPECIAL ASSEMBLY DAY AND SAYS...

  by PaintedToeNail in

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  "there was a kid who turned down a college scholarship so he could pioneer.

  how stupid!

  i would do anything to have a scholarship.

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  Gayle

  Wow, may more JW 10-year olds be so smart!
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  Hello everyone! I could use some advice

  by SnailsPace2 in

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  most of the time i just lurk .

  lots of times throughout the day.

  however, something has come up that i would like some advice on, especially from members who were exiting the jw religion with young children.. .

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  Gayle

  Concerned if he already believed his young friends would be destroyed at 'A,' that JWs and grandparents will reinforce an already indoctrinated judgement that this would include his parents too. Beware!

  A young child doesn't need to know anything else but love, joy and peace and respect for his parents. You have the right and responsibility to provide security and unconditional love for him. The JW life for youth is to feel always guilty and feel love from God and JW organization is only conditional and that God will 'destroy' those that disobey. Is this what you want for your son? This is not healthy for a young child to grow up with this complexity and contradiction.

  You can provide simple little Bible story books if you wish, for his age appropriate. WT programs don't have age appropriate programs. Keep him mentally challenged for his age. Have teaching dvds and books available for him. Find some friends for him through school or good neighborhood friends.

  Please don't give up on 'your' parenting concerns and abilities, over to your in-laws. They had their chance and opportunity with their son. Must be a reason why he has a more 'moderate' belief concern for his son. The WT is not a 'moderate' religion but it is extreme in manipulative control.

  I had 5 children when I realized that the WT is not true. It was gradual for me. Kids adapt very easily. They were happy with the changes. Sports were big for them. Then there's music and arts too. Having school friends was great for them. School work and learning was high value, encouragment all along the way for college some day. There's plenty to be busy about and having a positive attitude along the way. There are the normal day to day things in life, on what is right or wrong, appropriate or not appropriate,, good or bad. You, as the parent, are the one to teach that, instruct, along the way. They all have put themselves through college now. Some are married and & parents now. I love being a grandparent and gladly trust their parents to be the parents now.

  So many best wishes to you both!! YOU can do it!
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  JWS moving into the 2010s: GREATER FOCUS ON "PUBLIC' VENUE PREACHING

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  increasingly, jw.org and its print publications show lots of pictures of witnesses preaching one-to-one to "interested" passersby in public venues in contrast with fewer pictures depicting the door-to-door work.

  sure, d-t-d is still the organizatrion's mainstay activity - but clearly it pushes at every opportunity the need for the rank and file to "go" public.. this push could be a two-edge sword: there is obviously a hard core of witnesses whose dispositions draw them to this type of social outreach: they almost rush out to do this public-venue work, prefering it to d-t-d. but i'd hazard a guess that for the bulk of those in local congregations, the public-venue witnessing would be a total turn off.. to date, in new zealand, i have seen no evidence of jws doing this public venue witnessing - despite the huge push on jw.org and in the publications.

  kiwis just don't seem inclined to put themselves out in public places - or if they do, it is in a kind of very muted way (i.e., almost out of sight and unobtrusive).. this site has shown that in a few places, including mexico, at least a few of the more publicly zealous witnesses are doing the public work big time.. is the public venue preaching happening elsewhere, such as asia?

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  Gayle

  Remember back in the day, doing "street' witnessing? Approaching people with WT & Awake, or just standing there personally displaying the literature? It was awful. Most JWs did not like it. Especially, if you lived in a small to middle town size. Also, we went into small businesses to offer literature. They were always too busy, of course. Terrible! Few JWs can handle that kind of "public" exposure. Going door-to-door is so much easier now,,just a walk around the block, nobody home.
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  2013 Meeting Materials November 25 - Dec 1 ??

  by Gayle in

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  2. bible

  a '21-page printout' for the whole week?

  for cong.

  book study, bible reading for week (5 chapters or so), tms, service meeting references (what?

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  Gayle

  oh thank you Atlantis, I got it. Just have never seen it. How long have they been doing that now? Seems like everyone would like that?
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  2013 Meeting Materials November 25 - Dec 1 ??

  by Gayle in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a '21-page printout' for the whole week?

  for cong.

  book study, bible reading for week (5 chapters or so), tms, service meeting references (what?

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  Gayle

  Is this new? a '21-page printout' for the whole week? For Cong. Book study, Bible reading for week (5 chapters or so), TMS, Service Meeting References (what? no 'Our Kingdom Ministry' anymore), and Watchtower Study, 'all-in-one printout?' I have been out for a long time, never seen this before.

  Is this for everyone or just elders?
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  Nov 20, 2013 Letter to All Congregations (RE: Phillipines Disaster Relief)

  by Gayle in

  1. watchtower
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  "however, it would be appreciated if such donations are made without restrictions as to where and how the funds may be used.

  " additionally, at this time, there is no need for donations of food, clothing, or other items.

  if such needs arise in the future, you will be notified accordingly.

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  Gayle

  "However, it would be appreciated if such donations are made without restrictions as to where and how the funds may be used." Additionally, at this time, there is no need for donations of food, clothing, or other items. If such needs arise in the future, you will be notified accordingly."

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  Disgusting how the GB want to control how members want to give from their heart for a cause. The GB clearly want the money without restrictions to how it should be spent by them. They state the money should be for the "worldwide work." (Afterall, the GB need a lot of money for their paradisaic NY upstate properties - forget about the Phillipines needing simple shelter right now. My goodness, the GB criticize the "brazen." How 'brazen' they themselves are!
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  Heavenly hope?

  by DS211 in

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  ok i read this today and since i never can see what others think of it id like to get some feedback.

  its frkm anointedjw.org.

  after reading your whole site i came to a decision.

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  Gayle

  Even among the WT 'heavenly' partakers, there's a lot of confusion in WT history as noted by poster "The Oracle": http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/136010/2/Memorial-Partaker-totals-for-72-years-by-request

  In 1961, (those of us that were around then, were just kids, observing by far most partakers were already 'old' - 13,911) Likely, all would have died by now. Yet, since the WT has only stated that 'new' partakers are only 'replacement' partakers who have 'fallen' to apostasy, etc. Comical, that that is about the number of partakers this year!!! Did all the 1961 partakers get 'replaced?'
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  First time poster

  by kneehighmiah in

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  i finally decided to post.

  i'm so scared of being caught, so i'll be vague.

  i'm an appointed brother.

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  Gayle

  Good for you on your 're-evaluation!' Initially it can be bitter,, but with time it becomes bitter-sweet and then sweeter and sweeter with time. The pain of disappointment lightens. The 'aloneness' can feel so strong, but reading books of ones Ray Franz and Hassan on mind control tactics and there are so many other books of ones who have left, each with their own story, but there is a similarity of these.

  So many best wishes to your growth and quest of real truth and freedom of your heart and mind.
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  help for a forum member

  by jeremiah18:5-10 in

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  frowned upon is a lurking member here.

  he never posts, but actively reads.

  he went home yesterday to attend a family wedding.

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  Gayle

  Right, JWs don't know what to do with you when you're happy. They are totally confused, and frustrated if they can't get you down and depressed.
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  RESPONSE: Letting Go of the Need to Have Approval - MUST READ!

  by gmason972 in

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  thanks for the responses everybody!...nice to know i'm not alone in this.

  the one thing that the watchtower society has taught me is to never place your value and worth in the hands of other people!....

  once you look deep down inside yourself and let go of the need to have approval from others...you will find out things about you; you didn't know before.

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  Gayle

  That is so true!! As JWs, ones are suppose to worry so much about "stumbling" others. Since everything there is 'conditional love.' and judgmental, we subconsciously learned to put on the JW robe or should I say "straight jecket."

  There was no allowance to be "true" to ourselves. "Love your neighbor, AS YOURSELF!" How many times did I read that? but somehow the WTS made it sound like to 'love your neighbor, but not yourself.'