Posts by Gayle

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Going Back for the Right Reasons

by startingover13 in

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i'm new to this site, but i have been following the topics for some time.

initially, it was during a deep search into the history of jehovah's witnesses, and yes, "apostate" sites.

i was born into the organization in 1989. my father was always more inclined to the organization than my mother, and soon after she was df'ed.

Gayle

I am so glad you have unconditional love from your mom, who never became a JW. I am so glad your dad is going against 'counsel'/actually against Jehovah's organization. Certainly, he is keeping that a 'secret' in the cong. Have you not been hearing at meetings, from the WT mag., assembly talks with outline from the GB that JWs are not to be talking to any family members DF'd? Won't you just 'cringe' with those talks in the future?

How will you stomach it when you see a mom crying deeply, just hearing her child is DF'd, that now must 'shun' her child? How will you lovingly comfort her? knowing your dad did not shun you. Aren't you aware of the hundreds & thousands of former JWs DF'd now crying, depressed? or do you have some way of dismissing that reality?

8 men in New York will not dictate oh, yes they will. They have been sneaky on you for you to be so naive.

I do hope the best for you to be a loving husband, and in the future, a father with your children, having unconditional love for them also and promising you would never ever 'shun' them, under any circumstances.

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Today's Daily Text is a Convoluted Mess

by TTATTelder in

wednesday, december 11. his heart did not prove to be complete with jehovah.1 ki.

will we let solomons course be a warning example for us?

(1 ki.

Gayle

wow,,that's a good example how the WT scrambles their rank & file brains and why they quit thinking altogether.

Now, for us, to unscramble scrambled eggs!

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Father of four quits job after attending Annual Meeting

by confusedandalone in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvdegzadefa.

this is completely ridiculous.

even as an uber dub i would bnever ever do this!!!

Gayle

The guy is plain tired and overwhelmed. Only behind the guise of quitting a job 'for Jah,' can he get praise. The organization is only a burden to him. He and his wife will only find hardship this way. The children are adorable. Sure, they were excited about their trip & getting their Bible; however they had as much or more elation as getting their 'goldfish' that day.

The GB cannot even begin to understand the needs of family life. They are clueless. With a family like this they see only potential 10 yr olds getting baptized & to get control over and use.

I feel sorry for them.

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The medical specialist told me something alarming today. Pretty bummed.

by Julia Orwell in

so i've been going to doctors for years with chronic fatigue, a condition i managed ok but which took a drastic nose dive in late 2011 to 2012 to the point where i could barely function.

work was part of the problem, so at the end of that year i left that stressful environment.

but in the meantime, for the last few years i've been going to doctors, specialists, psychiatrists and psychologists and undergoing every sort of blood test you can imagine and seeing all sorts of medical people.

Gayle

Physical ailments, and emotional stresses affect us all. It's just being a JW makes it all worse. "Waiting" our whole life is exhausting and sickening.

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Governing Body member Sam Heard at our Assembly

by problemaddict in

nice enough gentleman.

the parts were pretty watered down.

mom asks him if he is ready.....did he clean off all the dirt?

Gayle

However so empty this was!! Of all things in life! Such drudgery!

He prayed for the brothers and sisters in the Phillipines (not the others), and for Mark Sanderson who is there to bring comfort to them. When they announced recently, that the Phillipines, don't need water, food, etc. Empty, empty, empty.

Being late for meetings,, would this be a 'top' issue of Jesus?,, or for anyone that is genuinely trying to help people. (Sounds like being late too many times might call for a JC meeting some day.)

And, comforting anyone who has lost a loved one, well, most people do that,,they just don't throw out the quick fix "soon" card like JWs. Many JWs or ex-JWs have learned, "soon" could actually mean decades later or the rest of their life.

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New here and having ah ha moments!

by Angus Beef in

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friends

what made you realize it was time to go?

i've been having health problems for the last few years and instead of any help, i'm listed as spiritually weak and of course associations is only my kids and husband.

all the good jw's have moved to other congregations and are doing well.

Gayle

Welcome here this site! What a dilemma to leave the WT world, many are stuck in your position. Spend your time with your grandchildren as much as possible. They are your ministry! Speak in 'unconditional love' ways to them. Very important, to not contradict the WT and your daughter. But express your love them 'no matter what always' (they will not hear such talk in KH). Help them to be interested in all the positive things in life, the now & today everythings. Maybe try to do special things with them on their school vacations, during holidays and birthdays times, (maybe not on the immediate days) but special 'fun' things around those times. So they have good memories of special times with grandma. They will know the difference between those times, as JW special days are no memories at all but are only a blur for them.

Celebrating the 'seasons,' not specific holidays. Getting together and making cookies, is a gingerbread house with graham crackers and candies pagan? Make a snowman, etc. Can a subtle way to make seasonal (winter, spring, summer, fall) keepsakes, pictures or things collectible for them (you keep till they are grown). Make grandma's house a 'wonderland' for them. Build a fun 'philosophy' wall. Plaques, some serious, some lighter. "Love, Joy, Peace" Serenity Prayer. "Whatever!"

You can be hopeful, but it will call for such patience. It will call for you to have and show more joy of 'this' life as you turn your back from the depressing life of JW life.

So many best wishes to you!

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My brother died yesterday

by satinka in

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friends

"albert" was 55 years old, and the fifth-born of seven children.

i am the second oldest and babysat him often while he was growing up --- and while i was still at home.. yesterday, albert was out taking his usual morning stroll around his small town, when he collapsed on the sidewalk.

the doctors said it was a heart attack.

Gayle

Sorry to hear of your loss. Sounds like he was a person of true heart, he loved you unconditionally.

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VERY CONFIDENTIAL LETTER - Child abuse 10/01/2012

by WatchTower87 in

confidential letter child abuse http://adf.ly/auxbu.

to all bodies of elders.

the congregation secretary should arrange for this letter to be retained in the congregation permanent file of policy letters.

Gayle

The Candace Conti case (started 1/28/11) and judgement was 9/17/12 . This letter, copy, is dated Oct 12, 2012. The letter states,, The branch office, not the local body of el-ders, determines whether an individual who has sexually abused children in the past will be considered a “predator.”

Wow, the audacity after having lost that court case.!! Candace Conti case went to Appeals Court, set up 9/25/12. Hopefully, a copy of this letter was received by her lawyer as soon as possible.

cc,,thank you for your report indicating a bit of a change 'now' by the WTS. But it may be that you are in a U.S. state ('hot' state for them), that has firm laws on this issue, and the WTS well knows it. Then, the WTS only modified their policy on this, only because of legal laws now, nothing to do with 'new light' from Jehovah. But, what if in a another state or another country such laws are not so defined, then, we can surmise that the WTS gives a different message there.

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Number of anointed partakers in new yearbook?

by JWOP in

i haven't seen the 2014 yearbook on the jw site yet.

i'm looking to see if the number of partakers has increased again (as it has for many years now).

anyone have a scan of it yet?.

Gayle

I wonder why they even 'publish' the partaker numbers if the increasing numbers bothers them? It would seem a good number of active members would be asking them about that by now?

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Number of anointed partakers in new yearbook?

by JWOP in

i haven't seen the 2014 yearbook on the jw site yet.

i'm looking to see if the number of partakers has increased again (as it has for many years now).

anyone have a scan of it yet?.

Gayle

a lot of inactive JWs? :) just kidding.

some of their bible students